Flow Pact Violation

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Flow Pact Violation

Postby gundam538 » Sun 13 Jul, 2014 17:40

[Flow] D.O.G. has continually violated the treaty that our 2 guilds have, Flow and HYPER. We have tried to talk to and use various avenues of diplomacy but he continues to indiscriminately attack and perm occ our members bases anyway. The pact clearly states no perm occing of bases and not to hit any base with less that 100k fleet and most bases he has been attacking has less than 10k in fleet. Individual members of a guild dont supersede a Pact. Here is the message Flow DOG personally sent to one of our members stating his "reason" for violating the pact:

[Flow] D.O.G. Reply Save Block Report 13 Jul 2014, 06:56:03
hello there; this may be a surprise you, but I have broadcasted the following message to members of your guild more than 5-6 times before; so, either you're taking the piss (suit you), or you're just not talking to each other (suit you, too).

Here it goes (this story started long before the pact was in place):

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J47:23

A member of your guild built a base in this region; i offered big compensation for him to disband and build anywhere else in the galaxy; i was ignored; seeing that i have won this galaxy (im the last survivor from the original inhabitants), and that i simply can force my way with things (although i always try nice first), I am going to attack and perma occupy any HYPER I come across

i will not stop, in fact you give me a reason to keep playing this server

when your guild disbands any bases in this region and stops sending scouts to this region, then I will let go of ALL hyper bases and NEVER attack you again; if I EVER see even a scout from HYPER in this region, I will attack again in full force

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that's all; i hope someone at ur lvl will understand the issue and try and resolve it; the pact is not in place between me and HYPER because i have KOS'd HYPER, that simple


Here are only a few of the battle reports from [Flow] D.O.G.

Battle Report
Location Leka (Jxx:xx:xx:xx)
Time 2014-07-13 02:22:48
Server Juno
Attack Force
Player [Flow] D.O.G. lvl 129.13
Fleet Name Fleet 7470
Defensive Force
Player [HYPER] Jan lvl 30.42
Fleet Name Fleet 11 (Destroyed)
Base 266026
Start Defenses 0.02%
End Defenses 0%
Command Centers 8
Commander William Astra (Tactical 2)

Attack Force
Unit Start Quant. End Quant. Power Armour Shield
Fighters 591292 591196 5.6 5.5 0
Cruiser 4995 4987.9 57.6 66 4.4

Defensive Force
Unit Start Quant. End Quant. Power Armour Shield
Heavy Cruiser 8.5 0 115.87 100.8 6.8
Ion Turrets 0.01 0 51.2 67.2 3.4
Photon Turrets 0.01 0 96 134.4 10.2
Planetary Ring 0.01 0 3072 2150.4 20.4

Total cost of units destroyed: 6380 ( Attacker: 1880 ; Defender: 4500 )
Experience: ( Attacker: +18 ; Defender: +638 )
New debris in space: 3296
Attacker conquered the base
Attacker got 2471 credits for pillaging defender's base.
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Battle Report
Location Andromeda (Jxx:xx:xx:xx)
Time 2014-07-13 02:22:19
Server Juno
Attack Force
Player [Flow] D.O.G. lvl 129.13
Fleet Name Fleet 7467
Defensive Force
Player [HYPER] Jan lvl 30.42
Fleet Name (Destroyed)
Base 265989
Start Defenses 0.37%
End Defenses 0%
Command Centers 10

Attack Force
Unit Start Quant. End Quant. Power Armour Shield
Fighters 260290 260278 5.6 5.5 0

Defensive Force
Unit Start Quant. End Quant. Power Armour Shield
Ion Turrets 0.04 0 51.2 67.2 3.4
Photon Turrets 0.04 0 96 134.4 10.2
Planetary Ring 0.02 0 3072 2150.4 20.4

Total cost of units destroyed: 60 ( Attacker: 60 ; Defender: 0 )
Experience: ( Attacker: +0 ; Defender: +6 )
New debris in space: 42
Attacker conquered the base
Attacker got 3602 credits for pillaging defender's base.
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Battle Report
Location MINI (Jxx:xx:xx:xx)
Time 2014-07-13 02:08:41
Server Juno
Attack Force
Player [Flow] D.O.G. lvl 129.14
Fleet Name Fleet 7461
Defensive Force
Player [HYPER] Jan lvl 30.65
Fleet Name (Destroyed)
Base 265970
Start Defenses 1.13%
End Defenses 0%
Command Centers 3
Commander Kenny Rigel (Defense 2)

Attack Force
Unit Start Quant. End Quant. Power Armour Shield
Fighters 264137 264097 5.6 5.5 0

Defensive Force
Unit Start Quant. End Quant. Power Armour Shield
Ion Turrets 0.12 0 52.22 68.54 3.4
Photon Turrets 0.12 0 97.92 137.09 10.2
Disruptor Turrets 0.06 0 300.29 548.35 13.6
Planetary Ring 0.06 0 3133.44 2193.41 20.4

Total cost of units destroyed: 200 ( Attacker: 200 ; Defender: 0 )
Experience: ( Attacker: +1 ; Defender: +20 )
New debris in space: 140
Attacker conquered the base
Attacker got 3976 credits for pillaging defender's base.
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Battle Report
Location peekaboo (Jxx:xx:xx:xx)
Time 2014-07-11 23:43:55
Server Juno
Attack Force
Player [Flow] D.O.G. lvl 129.14
Fleet Name Fleet 7460
Defensive Force
Player [HYPER] Mechwarrior lvl 30.53
Fleet Name (Destroyed)
Base 267053
Start Defenses 100%
End Defenses 100%
Command Centers 1

Attack Force
Unit Start Quant. End Quant. Power Armour Shield
Scout Ship 9 9 2.8 5.5 0

Defensive Force
Unit Start Quant. End Quant. Power Armour Shield

Total cost of units destroyed: 0 ( Attacker: 0 ; Defender: 0 )
Experience: ( Attacker: +0 ; Defender: +0 )
New debris in space: 0
Attacker conquered the base
Attacker got 12 credits for pillaging defender's base.
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As these battle reports and his own words clear shows he is Permanently Occupying any of our guilds bases he can find. After 24 hours he releases the occ and then reoccupies the base. This one player has clearly and deliberately violated the pack and has refused to stop until he gets what he personally wants. No player has the right to disregard a pact for any reason what so ever. That is how it has always been and how it will continue to be.

So to end We the [HYPER] NEW HYPERION ORDER guild are officially taking our complaint here since in-game diplomacy and reasoning has failed to resolve this terrible issue.
Last edited by Themis on Sat 19 Jul, 2014 02:08, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Flow Pact Violation

Postby fendelius » Fri 18 Jul, 2014 13:58

uh u are supposed to edit out a player's actual in server location so u breakin forum rules.

also i dont see the problem, the guy has a point, its his galaxy so stay out of it. the fact ur guild is so namby pamby that they still have a pact with a guild of a player who violates the pact seems like an internal problem from ur guild not from his guild. so ;fix ur internals page to show his guild dont honor that pact

pretty simple

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Re: Flow Pact Violation

Postby gundam538 » Sat 19 Jul, 2014 04:06

So your saying individual players can actually own galaxies. interesting idea even if its not true.

And no its not a problem on our side since Flow DOG has actually admitted he just doesnt like having another player so close to one of his bases. The pact is VERY clear and Flow DOG violated almost every point of the pact. So then please explain how it is an internal problem from our guild and not him?

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Re: Flow Pact Violation

Postby Wlerin » Sun 20 Jul, 2014 11:15

It's an internal problem with your guild because your members think they can refuse a request from someone with almost 4x your entire guild's fleet and not face any repercussions.

From the looks of things DOG does in fact own that galaxy and you'd best get to fixing whatever the problem he had with you was.


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