Fluffeh Fennec's Fabulous Frolic in Nova (a Q&A thread)

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Re: Fluffeh Fennec's Fabulous Frolic in Nova (a Q&A thread)

Postby GundamMerc » Tue 29 Oct, 2013 03:23

*pats Vaters on the head* That's ok. You can live secure in the knowledge that I am possibly a tad too anal to be taken seriously...

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Re: Fluffeh Fennec's Fabulous Frolic in Nova

Postby Andrea Nard1 » Tue 29 Oct, 2013 05:11

GundamMerc wrote:Ok, next question:

Barring capital fleets, which fleet spec do you think has been most decisive in the blob crashes on this server? Do you think other servers have different fleet specs that are more prominent?

Edited: Mean Themis ruins our fun. :bleh:


In my opinion what has been the most decisive are the sui fleet specs :neutral2:

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Re: Fluffeh Fennec's Fabulous Frolic in Nova (a Q&A thread)

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Re: Fluffeh Fennec's Fabulous Frolic in Nova

Postby balor multis crew » Wed 30 Oct, 2013 10:08

Andrea Nard1 wrote:
GundamMerc wrote:Ok, next question:

Barring capital fleets, which fleet spec do you think has been most decisive in the blob crashes on this server? Do you think other servers have different fleet specs that are more prominent?

Edited: Mean Themis ruins our fun. :bleh:


In my opinion what has been the most decisive are the sui fleet specs :neutral2:


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Re: Fluffeh Fennec's Fabulous Frolic in Nova (a Q&A thread)

Postby Vaters » Wed 30 Oct, 2013 12:48

I've heard you can die of butthurt... It can get quite serious :paranoid:

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Re: Fluffeh Fennec's Fabulous Frolic in Nova (a Q&A thread)

Postby War MachineX » Wed 30 Oct, 2013 16:20

Vaters wrote::P

Overall I think a guild with a higher number of large HC fleets is better. Remember though, pure FT/FR into a pure infinite HC stack with roughly equivalent techs and it's a 1:1 ratio. The frigates actually lose in the calc I just ran. Those shields go a long ways. Basically saying, you suicide your frigs + FTs into HCs and your frigates + FTs get zeroed - you're getting a rough ratio

Hence their strength if you have a very large fleet. So hard to kill.



there are several problems with this....

One frigs only need missile armor stellar tech they are cheaper then what hc needs
shielding plasma armor warp

so frig fleets will out pace in tech alone,

2nd it takes about 3 frigs to kill a single heavy so that's a 240 to 500 ratios that does not sound even to me, even if it took four it would be 320/500
heavies get there true power in the fact they can do damage to almost every ship, and have shields to make them last longer in a blob crash, frigs do not have the stamina to keep up fighting

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Re: Fluffeh Fennec's Fabulous Frolic in Nova (a Q&A thread)

Postby fd4ruleall » Wed 30 Oct, 2013 17:14

War MachineX wrote:
Vaters wrote::P

Overall I think a guild with a higher number of large HC fleets is better. Remember though, pure FT/FR into a pure infinite HC stack with roughly equivalent techs and it's a 1:1 ratio. The frigates actually lose in the calc I just ran. Those shields go a long ways. Basically saying, you suicide your frigs + FTs into HCs and your frigates + FTs get zeroed - you're getting a rough ratio

Hence their strength if you have a very large fleet. So hard to kill.



there are several problems with this....

One frigs only need missile armor stellar tech they are cheaper then what hc needs
shielding plasma armor warp

so frig fleets will out pace in tech alone,

2nd it takes about 3 frigs to kill a single heavy so that's a 240 to 500 ratios that does not sound even to me, even if it took four it would be 320/500
heavies get there true power in the fact they can do damage to almost every ship, and have shields to make them last longer in a blob crash, frigs do not have the stamina to keep up fighting


Three frigs alone wont kill one HC. You need to have more equivalent fleet sizes in order to shoot an HC fleet, and this is assuming it's naked and not having FTs.

With HC+FT, frigs aren't great against HC's. Run some battle calculators on it. You'll see what he's trying to say in his point. Tech, is largely irrelevant in the grand scheme. It plays a role, yes, but very rarely is the differential in techs large enough to matter. Not to mention that at a certain point, cybernetics/tachy/ai is more important than weapon techs.

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Re: Fluffeh Fennec's Fabulous Frolic in Nova (a Q&A thread)

Postby Vaters » Wed 30 Oct, 2013 17:19

What Fred said is entirely accurate. It comes down to the relative size of fleets. Shields are amazing things. A large HC fleet is VERY hard to kill because you can't one shot it very often. A frigate fleet 50% of the size of an HC fleet get a ~1:1 ratio. That's rough. And that only gets worse when the HCs aren't naked.

Tech almost doesn't matter. That argument plays no part. A frigate spec is rapeable. That's the point. HCs are the strongest unit that is not rapeable. In a blob crash, I'd turn every single one of my inactives into an HC fleet if I could

7.5M FR+FT vs 20M naked HCs @comparable credit investment in weapons tech
Total cost of unist destroyed: 13902000 ( Attacker: 7500000 ; Defender: 6402000 )

This gets worse for FRs if the HC fleet has FTs with it.

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Re: Fluffeh Fennec's Fabulous Frolic in Nova (a Q&A thread)

Postby Andrea Nard1 » Wed 30 Oct, 2013 17:36

Nope is not butthurt...

I am still able to be rational and logical.
I said sui specs becuase of the extensive use of them supported by several threads on this forum.

Re HC, vaters is right...just think what pain in the *beep* is to derb an inactive hc fleet

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Re: Fluffeh Fennec's Fabulous Frolic in Nova (a Q&A thread)

Postby GundamMerc » Wed 30 Oct, 2013 19:07

Ok, moving on to the next question because people are crazy *beep*.

What do you think the next moves of the top guilds will be? Please list out the top 5 guilds, along with your opinions for each.
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Re: Fluffeh Fennec's Fabulous Frolic in Nova (a Q&A thread)

Postby Vaters » Wed 30 Oct, 2013 19:19

  • 30s invade 00s
  • 30s invade 10s
  • 30s invade 20s
  • Nard suicides Maverick, 30s implode
  • 30s invades 50s for lulz nobody likes Felon why do they even exist? #eliminatethe50s?

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Re: Fluffeh Fennec's Fabulous Frolic in Nova (a Q&A thread)

Postby Maverick [BBW] » Wed 30 Oct, 2013 19:44

Vaters wrote:
  • Nard suicides Maverick, 30s implode


NOOOOOOO! NOT MY BEAUTIFUL FLEET!!!!!!!

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Re: Fluffeh Fennec's Fabulous Frolic in Nova (a Q&A thread)

Postby Nova Link » Wed 30 Oct, 2013 20:08

Maverick [BBW] wrote:
Vaters wrote:
  • Nard suicides Maverick, 30s implode


NOOOOOOO! NOT MY BEAUTIFUL FLEET!!!!!!!


Especially after you just rebuilt it after derbing everything else in the 30's. :D

I'm personally just waiting for the simfest to happen once the P server opens up. Every time a server opens, past servers have their player amount reduced even more. Plenty to eat when everyone goes inactive when ZZ server opens up. :biglaugh:

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Re: Fluffeh Fennec's Fabulous Frolic in Nova (a Q&A thread)

Postby GundamMerc » Wed 30 Oct, 2013 22:52

Vaters wrote:
  • 30s invade 00s
  • 30s invade 10s
  • 30s invade 20s
  • Nard suicides Maverick, 30s implode
  • 30s invades 50s for lulz nobody likes Felon why do they even exist? #eliminatethe50s?

I meant the top five guilds' actions. I should probably have been more specific about that.


Also, I opened a thread for the old questions if you wish to keep discussing them.

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Re: Fluffeh Fennec's Fabulous Frolic in Nova (a Q&A thread)

Postby OG Kush » Wed 30 Oct, 2013 23:04

Vaters wrote: In a blob crash, I'd turn every single one of my inactives into an HC fleet if I could


Inacto's in a crash... I would lean towards CR/FT rather then HC. On sync they consume more enemy fleet IMO. With fighters and small units. Yes yes a Levi stack could potentially rape it/them. but that's what meat is for. Inacto's most likely won't have the "big" fleets on the pile, so even if they are HC they won't be aiming the big Levi stack. more like picking off smaller DN's or small Levi fleets.

Vaters wrote:
  • 30s invade 00s
  • 30s invade 10s
  • 30s invade 20s
  • Nard suicides Maverick, 30s implode
  • 30s invades 50s for lulz nobody likes Felon why do they even exist? #eliminatethe50s?


I must be reading that through my rear view mirror!

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