MonCkey King wrote:ok im not as articulate as link is
I think that is one of the first coherent compliments I have received on these forums, so thank you. And yes, that was a purposeful alliteration.
In regards to all those participants in this thread, I think we are battling about on opposing ends of the spectrum; judging circumstances from solidified points of view that we wish to not change one iota and in turn not understanding either argument. However, I think the actual truth is hidden in the middle between Vaters and Hulks viewpoints and that's how we can solve this quandary.
Vaters view: Anyone who is doesn't understand what this game is about is a farm and should be regarded as such. Most people playing the game have little to no talent or a general lack of understanding of what the game is about, and if they did, they would be where he, and his guild is, right now. All those who whine about being derbed, have deserved their fate due to their comeuppance and general obliviousness to tactics in this game.
Hulks: Views himself as a great player, who has had the dissatisfaction of being in many guilds that have been derbed. Following this logic, he views himself as a moral standard for the game as he does not follow shady tactics and regards those who perform such shady maneuvers to win as bad players who are not showing off their skill, but their lack there of.
Again the truth lies in between these two perspectives. Is WKYSB a good guild? Yes, very much so and judging from the raids on Felon, AA and now BoB. I would actually judge it as the better guild over King, even if they don't have the numbers King has and relied on players from King to come and help. Was BoB a good guild? Yes, just in different ways. With SLS's help, they took down the formerly number 3 ranked guild, quite the accomplishment. Taking the extremes in arguments can procure wonderful "e-tears", however, both are arguing from somewhat mute points.
And living at home is not a bad circumstance, especially considering the economic climate of the past few years. Over 30% of young adults in the US are living at home after graduating college so a belittling of that fact is ignorance at its finest.
Or if all else fails, blame Seldon.