the coming bob civil war and Golden Parachute

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Re: the coming bob civil war and Golden Parachute

Postby Belisarius » Sun 02 Nov, 2014 15:28

Balor wrote: to be fair you guys screwed yourselves by going all in with the A/B zerg which are the same, I chatted with fka on Skype and he was supremely confident that he was gonna derb our fleets fairly easily. After that I gained Skype proof of collusion with trolz and the A10-A59 Girls4, hence, the 20% of Lowers that trolz represented, is why fka was oozing so much confidence that one time and then I figured it all out.
Which is complete and utter bull and you know it. You know me and that I have never stabbed anyone and had no plans nor even intentions of doing so on Andromeda. But really mate, I have no desire to rehash Andromeda all over again. My point simply being here, for any that might be gullible enough to actually fall for your golden parachute ploy, is that despite all the warnings of how you were to not be trusted, I trusted you... and paid the price.

And as Luft, I actually like you mate. As I said, I thought we had developed a good relationship. I defended you against accusations from others and now I'm having to clean the egg off my face and eat crow. I really didn't see it coming. So until you ball up to what you actually did and stop trying to hide behind spins and lies, you've lost my respect mate. And in the event you may actually believe what you're saying (which I highly doubt), ball up to having made a mistake or getting duped by others yourself. I still won't trust you again ;) but at least I might be able to respect you again.

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Re: the coming bob civil war and Golden Parachute

Postby Katsuchiyo » Sun 02 Nov, 2014 18:01

Hopefully some accept that Golden Parachute option.
Those that accept, are probably the scrubs we are complaining all the time, it would be a favor to us actually.

And lol @ those that actually trust Balor and Addex. 2 of the most massive bundle of sticks :shifty:

I don't care.
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Re: the coming bob civil war and Golden Parachute

Postby SilverKnight » Sun 02 Nov, 2014 20:19

Balor is alright. I made peace with him back in Mira. Addex is an okay fellow, when you are dealing with him on a non-enemy basis. Deity is only active when the crap is hitting the fan, and he won't deny that (he'll confirm this).

On the douche scale, I can rattle off a few from the game history that were real douches that make Addex look like the paragon of kindness. Honestly if you played Ceti for more than 5 days, you would KNOW at least 10 douchebags you would have to deal with routinely, none named Balor or Addex or Deity.

There are no white hats in this game. There may be lighter shades of grey, but no purely good guys. There are also no black hats either.

If Balor is making an offer, it probably is in good faith. In Nova, WKYSB now clearly owns the 20s. EARTH and WKYSB merged not as rivals but as friends, because of WKYSB taking up KING's golden parachute. BRONY was driven to extinction. AA, destroyed. Legio, destroyed. The BRONY/Legio/WKYSB/AA/ACE zerg axis erased. *ACE* is still an independent guild who enjoys total freedom in N28, and is at peace with WKYSB.

There was no broken promises by KING in Nova. KING did not cancel on EARTH --- EARTH melded into WKYSB, obviating that pact.

If players would focus on building their guild independent of whether Royal is in their yard or not, they would have a much easier time winning their territory.

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Re: the coming bob civil war and Golden Parachute

Postby Baylor » Sun 02 Nov, 2014 20:41

Acts speak louder than words Beli and the best we can say of you is that you don't even control your guys, VGMs and players who were open in their desire to see A00s fail. Ultimately I think that your regime got hijacked by VGMs with a rogue agenda, they would've successfully delivered TROLZ to PPD when the time came. If you cant accept this then that only shows that your politics of naivete were never a good match for the GM position.

Point is the list of guilds who took the deal, and played it cool and made it all the way, that list is far longer than trolz the sad sop who screwed themselves by trying to screw over the folks who take care of them, us.

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Re: the coming bob civil war and Golden Parachute

Postby Perun » Sun 02 Nov, 2014 20:49

i think someone is sad cos no one accepting his offer

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Re: the coming bob civil war and Golden Parachute

Postby SilverKnight » Sun 02 Nov, 2014 20:56

Perun wrote:i think someone is sad cos no one accepting his offer

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No one thought anyone was accepting the offer in Nova either, until WKYSB stabbed BRONY.

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Re: the coming bob civil war and Golden Parachute

Postby Perun » Sun 02 Nov, 2014 21:25

i absolutely have no idea what is happening on servers after epsi, lol i dont have idea whats going on on epsi either now

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Re: the coming bob civil war and Golden Parachute

Postby SilverKnight » Sun 02 Nov, 2014 21:29

Perun wrote:i absolutely have no idea what is happening on servers after epsi, lol i dont have idea whats going on on epsi either now

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Beta was awesome.

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Re: the coming bob civil war and Golden Parachute

Postby LINKS » Sun 02 Nov, 2014 22:07

Can i have a Golden Parachute?

I accept all the rules,
if im allowed to rule.
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Re: the coming bob civil war and Golden Parachute

Postby Belisarius » Sun 02 Nov, 2014 22:20

Balor wrote:Acts speak louder than words Beli and the best we can say of you is that you don't even control your guys, VGMs and players who were open in their desire to see A00s fail. Ultimately I think that your regime got hijacked by VGMs with a rogue agenda, they would've successfully delivered TROLZ to PPD when the time came. If you cant accept this then that only shows that your politics of naivete were never a good match for the GM position.

Point is the list of guilds who took the deal, and played it cool and made it all the way, that list is far longer than trolz the sad sop who screwed themselves by trying to screw over the folks who take care of them, us.
Well, blew your chance for redeemed respect mate. Spin on. As you say, acts speak louder than words... you stabbed me, not the other way around. Never would have happened. My only naivete was trusting you. Cheers!

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Re: the coming bob civil war and Golden Parachute

Postby Luftwaffe » Sun 02 Nov, 2014 23:40

Belisarius wrote:
Balor wrote: to be fair you guys screwed yourselves by going all in with the A/B zerg which are the same, I chatted with fka on Skype and he was supremely confident that he was gonna derb our fleets fairly easily. After that I gained Skype proof of collusion with trolz and the A10-A59 Girls4, hence, the 20% of Lowers that trolz represented, is why fka was oozing so much confidence that one time and then I figured it all out.
Which is complete and utter bull and you know it. You know me and that I have never stabbed anyone and had no plans nor even intentions of doing so on Andromeda. But really mate, I have no desire to rehash Andromeda all over again. My point simply being here, for any that might be gullible enough to actually fall for your golden parachute ploy, is that despite all the warnings of how you were to not be trusted, I trusted you... and paid the price.

And as Luft, I actually like you mate. As I said, I thought we had developed a good relationship. I defended you against accusations from others and now I'm having to clean the egg off my face and eat crow. I really didn't see it coming. So until you ball up to what you actually did and stop trying to hide behind spins and lies, you've lost my respect mate. And in the event you may actually believe what you're saying (which I highly doubt), ball up to having made a mistake or getting duped by others yourself. I still won't trust you again ;) but at least I might be able to respect you again.
I'm not one to talk *beep* on the forums but I'll explain what happened to myself over a span of a few servers. I've always tried to play both sides so to speak, because I have friends on both sides. Even though, I really never got along with Addex and it always pushed me a bit further from their side than I would have liked.

-Save Deity/co in O00's from China.
-Get fukt on P by "friends". 2 weeks of fun > competitive server for longer than 1Y
-Get accounts recovered on multiple servers because they thought I was going to sui/backstab (which never happened because I'm not a douche)

I let this all go, because people should be forgiven.

Then they wanted me to help them against BOB, and I entertained the offer. But I figured they needed, deserved, and earned what was coming to them on B2.0. (I'm also a man of my word and I said I would help Stella) They didn't like that I wouldn't flip/sui myself and my crew and then the following occurred.

Get KD'd on Nova, apparently behind Balor's back (it's his guild though?)
Get suicided on Omega by a multi. All I got was, "I didn't do it". Deity did. Ehonor?

A browser game shouldn't be this manipulative/over the top and it's this type of toxic douchery that will continue to deplete the player base. It's been on a pretty steady decline since Fenix to be honest, the forums have been a great indication of that alone.

I like Balor, we've chatted for countless hours on Skype because I genuinely enjoy conversation with an intellectual such as himself that isn't self absorbed (insert Deity here). He also stuck his neck out for me on Nova because Addex+co didn't like me but I proved I was worth the BS he got from Addex. I consider Balor a friend. Although he was involved in all the negative actions taken against me, he didn't directly *beep* me over. To my knowledge at least. Regardless, I won't sit here and trash talk him.

All in all you can trust him, but you can't trust anyone he plays with or involves himself with. They employ shady tactics and will make sure you're Sui'd/backstabbed on every server they have any influence on. A "win at all costs" mentality runs rampant within his group of players. Which isn't a bad thing, you should try to win at all costs, but when you're suicided/backstabbed/lied to/etc it begins to wear your good guy demeanor a bit thin and trying to relate to that ideology and continue to defend it becomes increasingly difficult. (summoning Vile) Maybe they wanted more rage logs from me, but I'm really not as involved as I once was.

TL:DR trying to stay neutral gets u fukt m8, pick a side that isn't Addex's.

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Re: the coming bob civil war and Golden Parachute

Postby LINKS » Mon 03 Nov, 2014 00:08

so....wheres my Golden Parachute?

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if im allowed to rule.
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Re: the coming bob civil war and Golden Parachute

Postby Wlerin » Mon 03 Nov, 2014 00:34

LINKS wrote:so....wheres my Golden Parachute?
Gold is not a very good parachute material. Are you sure you want one?

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Re: the coming bob civil war and Golden Parachute

Postby Dr. Fappo » Mon 03 Nov, 2014 00:43

ITT: cross server political garbage.

I'd rather watch porn with Rafen playing the gifted protagonist than read this but I can't find any.

Do you guys know what happened to Cloak and Infinity? Zatara rings any bells? I'd give an arm and a leg to have Zatara play another server with me.

Oh yeah, and lolDeitylol. I guess strategically simming multiple servers behind Balol makes you a celebrity. lolwog

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Re: the coming bob civil war and Golden Parachute

Postby Zanthus » Mon 03 Nov, 2014 00:58

Bob and Mars are both trash. Bob is full of retards and Mars is shady AF. If you are in Bob and don't like it just quit or relocate, that's my suggestion. I mean unless you like being backstabbed or used as a meatshield so Mars' top players don't lose fleet. That's cool too.


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