LotP Launches to Lowers

[Orientation]

[...] but this op will end worse for them than B20s op did

Well, I don't think how that would be possible.

They got caught in a recall trap, had their inactive taken down for awesome ratio, made a totally unsync'd landing that got wrecked for even better ratios, ... How can they really screw up more than that ?

Being from Sith, I must say Lotp did quite a good job in 20 and 21. The mistake was the launch to 23 where, as you said, they got recall trapped by the 20s alliance. I, for one, don't consider their attempt in the 20s a screw up.

Just to add onto that if you go back on the forum posts when i gave a run down of what actually happened you all would find that leadership was running everything up untill 21 I myself have been busy with work Bill at the time had his son in hospital so was not able to be on himself so he had Horizon step up thinking he wouldnt make any dumb decisions which he then made the launch to 23 which I myself due to being busy did not know untill the launch was half way through meaning even if we recalled we would be trapped and the launch on a recall would be even worse than continuing the launch into 23

So yes it was a retarded move however after that screw up due to myself being busy and Bill stepping down I put a new leadership team in place which are alot more capable than Horizon was and far more active than I can be. So i dont expect to see such a screw up again happening by Lotp.

Either way as always GL to all sides

[chipmucks]

crash should be fun. But still have not got an answer from the previous question about LotP letting the lowers fight it out and no interference. It would seem as though maybe this was untrue. But then again who really cares about LotP bringing derbs

[Trolll]

crash should be fun. But still have not got an answer from the previous question about LotP letting the lowers fight it out and no interference. It would seem as though maybe this was untrue. But then again who really cares about LotP bringing derbs

LotP was originally supposed to start in 00-01 as part of RAGE's group but they ran away to the teens to sim in peace.

LoTP having the guts to send down to help Rage in these early stages and successfully landing was a success and an early opportunity missed by Pax. .

Can't really say they have guts coming down to lowers when they didn't have them to start where they said they were going to. The fact you say we should have crashed them earlier proves you have no idea what the numbers were like at all.

[Saxon1812]

Cmon Troll, Pax crashed early the last time with less and succeeded, they could have done so again with a 6 hour flight time max. I'm saying they missed the opportunity to do so again and i know more about activity and numbers than u obviously think.

[Addex]

I'm always surprised at how the opposite side gathers together the worst possible leadership in game. Is there a special chat where all the AE failures get together and decide who is gonna screw up next?

I should be a good sport and wish good luck to RAGE/Lopt and the rest of farm guilds but man you guys dont need luck but a miracle.... or at least someone with IQ over 70.

[Uber RoXorz Winzer]

Cmon Troll, Pax crashed early the last time with less and succeeded, they could have done so again with a 6 hour flight time max. I'm saying they missed the opportunity to do so again and i know more about activity and numbers than u obviously think.

Pax crashed 15 mil on 19 mil, which was mostly support fleet or inactives who hadn't ran a week ago after the first crash. That was easy, and still cut it kinda close with Pax only have about 3-4 mil left on lz after crash.

At the time Lotp was spotted (erm, we'll their hoards of scouts giving away 20h before they were on scanners that they were shotgunning in... well done guys), the numbers were around 19-20 mil to 30-32, not to mention most of the 30-32 was actually combat since all the inactive recyclers were derbed in the previous crash.

Pax only pushed their blob up to 36 mil (to Rage's 32-34ish) after that time.

[IllusiveSoldier]

I'm always surprised at how the opposite side gathers together the worst possible leadership in game. Is there a special chat where all the AE failures get together and decide who is gonna screw up next?

I should be a good sport and wish good luck to RAGE/Lopt and the rest of farm guilds but man you guys dont need luck but a miracle.... or at least someone with IQ over 70.

lol don't spoil it.

[SilverKnight]

it's a case of "true believers" mixed with hate in a cocktail where reality matters not.

Sort of like Congress.

[Cloud NiiNe]

I'm surprised there's still people that think LotP was with RAGE/BOB when they started in the 00s.

[IllusiveSoldier]

Like a 50% of Dalek joining Bob, and now some extra?

But does it even matter now? It says more about ex-BOB calling help, when they'd once an advantage over pax.

[Orientation]

crash should be fun. But still have not got an answer from the previous question about LotP letting the lowers fight it out and no interference. It would seem as though maybe this was untrue. But then again who really cares about LotP bringing derbs

I'm guessing you missed the part where Pax had Sith attempt to launch to the lowers to help them? Which was the original reason for us launching to the 20's in the first place Aka Pax called in help first so as i stated we would help the opposite side.

As for the trash talking Addex no one cares its the same boring trash talk from both sides every server so rather than talk play the game.

[Luftwaffe]

Forums are pure *beep* nowadays. Addex, just stop trying.

[Wlerin]

well lets see, the guild they are going up against has been neck to neck in a cluster war since literally the inception of the server, they've had defeats and victories and it's been hard fought.... yet... after all this battling... they still somehow manage to have more fleet than lotp, which was handed a cluster on a silver platter with no resistance at all. What does that say about how this will turn up? I say derb delivery just like their lolattempt at the 20s.

This brings up another question. Does URW actually believe the above, or is he less clueless than he appears? *lick* *lick* *crunch* The world may never know...

yet you forget to mention that PAX does have 60 extra members than LOTP, and LOTP does have the better fleet averages. but that is not part of your spin is it?

While that point is salient, you fail to mention the real reason for the fleet disparity, which of course lies squarely in LotP's court (but is not a result of simming poorly).

Doesn't excuse LotP's terribad attempt at an op in the 20's though.

Bingo. Throwing away half of your fleet for no return doesn't exactly do wonders for averages or for totals. On the other hand, in-cluster competition or no, being handed a massive pile *does* help. Just a wee bit.

Of course, all that has no bearing on whether this exercise will be yet another derb delivery to Pax, or will actually turn out in RAtP's favour.

[Addex]

All I see from the opposite side is the same people that fails every server and get raped quitting in tears promising to come back for a new server because this time will be different. The issue with the enemy guilds is not their players they have some decent players and all that but none of that matters when you have the most retarded emo leaders you can get in AE making stupid decisions that get their whole guilds killed.

This will be yet another derb delivery for Pax , I wonder what danny excuse will be this time, prolly he will go a la Juno say he got a new job and has to quit after his guild gets obliterated yet again

[Orientation]

All I see from the opposite side is the same people that fails every server and get raped quitting in tears promising to come back for a new server because this time will be different. The issue with the enemy guilds is not their players they have some decent players and all that but none of that matters when you have the most retarded emo leaders you can get in AE making stupid decisions that get their whole guilds killed.

This will be yet another derb delivery for Pax , I wonder what danny excuse will be this time, prolly he will go a la Juno say he got a new job and has to quit after his guild gets obliterated yet again

I guess you need educating every server before Juno i was with the same group aka the Original WL/Ftw which alot went on to become your group after cloak quit, The only server iv played against you on was J then quit returned on Pegasus destroyed the 50's with a load of randomers, I wasn't even gonna be playing Bravo let alone have to step in as leadership to help out which as iv stated im busy with work myself which is why i put Leet+Colt in charge seeing as the rest have either quit/became to busy thereselfs aswell the only reason i said yes was due to people asking me to who i also said to at the start i wont be anywhere near as active but ill still play anyway


But sure continue your same *beep* you do every server thats fine by me while you waste time on AE im focussed on more important things such as having a life when you experience it let me know maybe then you wont waste as much time on this game