DOGE violating every single part of Drako Law

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Re: DOGE violating every single part of Drako Law

Postby OneOfMany » Mon 31 Aug, 2015 03:43

Pointing out perma-occing, rehitting and hits done on Syn to judges got us nowhere but made it clear that the law was only going to be used against us, not for us. We tried suggesting to put past ROE violations aside and move forward, but it is clear seeing Doge, Nasa and UFC mercenaries will unite against us.

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Re: DOGE violating every single part of Drako Law

Postby OneOfMany » Mon 31 Aug, 2015 04:03

Hayley wrote:Scott, It's stupid to ask for CF protection while you attack other people's strongholds.


It's also stupid to expect drako law to protect you when you are blatantly violating drako law.


You haven't shown any concrete proof that DOGE leadership told you that it was ok to merge with ADHD.


Syn is also being attacked in its stronghold- why should we and continue to try and hold our guys back from what they see as retaliation?
The proof of my conversations and agreement with Doge was presented to judges.
Ninjitsu said for example that CF terms of the past are now irrelevant and replaced by a relationship between SYN and DOGE.

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Re: DOGE violating every single part of Drako Law

Postby Kedart » Mon 31 Aug, 2015 04:33

Your "Stronghold"? We have not hit you in 07-09 yet. If you mean the bases in 05, then yes, you are being hit. You surrendered 05 to ADHD in the first DOGE/ADHD->SYN war. ADHD surrendered 05 to use as the galaxy to place our training guild in the DOGE->ADHD war. Just because your zerg merge gives you the majority of bases there does not mean you suddenly exert control over it.

I don't know why we ever showed you mercy in the first place. We should have swept through and occ'd all your bases before Drako Law was even a thing. You broke the very first pact you made as a guild (NAP with ADHD/DOGE so we could clean up RUN/DOG) within what, 48 hours? You've certainly broken every other arrangement we have ever made since then. You are a bunch of shady characters that are an absolute pain to negotiate with, and you fully deserve what's coming to you.

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Re: DOGE violating every single part of Drako Law

Postby lodbrok » Mon 31 Aug, 2015 05:20

You're right Kedart... Our fault in both wars was showing mercy.

SYN trolls won't get it. The guild is run by Scott gg with GH as underboss and Thall as their forum warrior damn!... That's like an army of retards.. Then an inactive GM that otherwise should be a decent one...

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Re: DOGE violating every single part of Drako Law

Postby OneOfMany » Mon 31 Aug, 2015 06:51

Same junk being said over and over. Judges already established that you cannot claim that any agreements as part of the CF with adhd gives you anything if you claim that Cf is broken. You can't have it both ways.

How can you guys claim we are trolls while calling us retards? :lol:

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Re: DOGE violating every single part of Drako Law

Postby lodbrok » Mon 31 Aug, 2015 07:18

OneOfMany wrote:Same junk being said over and over. Judges already established that you cannot claim that any agreements as part of the CF with adhd gives you anything if you claim that Cf is broken. You can't have it both ways.

How can you guys claim we are trolls while calling us retards? :lol:

Even this is a troll post. When/where did judges say the things you say they said?

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Re: DOGE violating every single part of Drako Law

Postby OneOfMany » Mon 31 Aug, 2015 17:15

lodbrok wrote:
OneOfMany wrote:Same junk being said over and over. Judges already established that you cannot claim that any agreements as part of the CF with adhd gives you anything if you claim that Cf is broken. You can't have it both ways.

How can you guys claim we are trolls while calling us retards? :lol:

Even this is a troll post. When/where did judges say the things you say they said?


In the SH thread maybe?

Wlerin:
The laws don't make any provision for retaining SH status after a merger, since they say nothing about mergers (that I'm aware of anyway), but the former SH owner is gone. DOGE never had legal claim, they were only given rights by the CF, the very same CF that was broken.

If re-evaluated according to the laws, it appears SYN has control of 03 and 05
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Re: DOGE violating every single part of Drako Law

Postby Kedart » Mon 31 Aug, 2015 17:24

Wlerin is not a judge, and his opinion in either side's favor does not represent an official ruling.

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Re: DOGE violating every single part of Drako Law

Postby lodbrok » Mon 31 Aug, 2015 17:38

OneofMany you sound like Scott are you?

Wlerin is not a judge as Kedart has rightly pointed out and any declaration from the judges has to be backed by a majority of votes casted...

You guys have done a terrible job trolling. ADHD or SYN has not put up any statements from their leadership to refute all allegations made by DOGE officially. In the debate on the previous proposal concerning this matter that was passed on the 26th of August, even the GM of SYN agreed to ADHD violations.

To follow up with statements from DOGE to the judges, visit this thread
viewtopic.php?f=154&t=117633

A new proposal has been submitted and we've made it public for the sake of transparency just as the previous one was.

Also ask your leadership and representative in the judges to address them squarely.

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Re: DOGE violating every single part of Drako Law

Postby DrBones » Mon 31 Aug, 2015 18:37

This is just a propaganda drive for both sides a-la (China)North Korea vs South Korea(USA).
We shall see for whom the common folk side with.
It seems decided already that the judges and LS tier in Drako have no interest in what happens so long as the lowers destroy themselves and allow an external party to fill the vacuum.

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Re: DOGE violating every single part of Drako Law

Postby Kedart » Mon 31 Aug, 2015 18:57

Believe me, only one party here is being destroyed. The other will feast on delicious derbs and base pillages and grow even stronger.

Place your bets well.

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Re: DOGE violating every single part of Drako Law

Postby OneOfMany » Mon 31 Aug, 2015 21:14


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Re: DOGE violating every single part of Drako Law

Postby Hayley » Mon 31 Aug, 2015 21:21

Why does SYN keep insisting that DOGE loses their SH in 5 because ADHD broke the CF agreement?

At the end of world war 2. The Japanese empire surrendered to the U.S. and the terms of its surrender were to hand over control of their bases in the pacific, complete demilitarization and the U.S. occupation of Japan.

Now if Japan decided to renege on its surrender conditions and re-militarize or join the Soviet Union a couple days after surrendering - do you really think this means the US forces occupying Japan will have to pack up and go home?

If anything this gives the U.S. the reason they should continue the attack on Japan without mercy because they are untrustworthy scoundrels.

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Re: DOGE violating every single part of Drako Law

Postby DrBones » Mon 31 Aug, 2015 21:35

D05 was a shared galaxy between all parties: ADHD,DOGE,SYN. Nobody was to claim "total" control over that particular Galaxy.
Since there are now claims of SH status in 05, it makes sense that all parties will attempt to protect their interests there, ie: liberating, retaliating, and attacking the other party within the galaxy.

Again both sides are just stirring the pot, and attempting to gain support for their respective perspectives in the area.

Kinda like a Vietnam circumstance, we have the Soviets and North Vietnam fighting USA and South Vietnam, all it amounts to is 2 parties attempting to exert and protect their influence in an area and sadly there is bloodshed involved.

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Re: DOGE violating every single part of Drako Law

Postby TwiSt3dFate » Mon 31 Aug, 2015 21:37

Kedart wrote:Your "Stronghold"? We have not hit you in 07-09 yet. If you mean the bases in 05, then yes, you are being hit. You surrendered 05 to ADHD in the first DOGE/ADHD->SYN war. ADHD surrendered 05 to use as the galaxy to place our training guild in the DOGE->ADHD war. Just because your zerg merge gives you the majority of bases there does not mean you suddenly exert control over it.

I don't know why we ever showed you mercy in the first place. We should have swept through and occ'd all your bases before Drako Law was even a thing. You broke the very first pact you made as a guild (NAP with ADHD/DOGE so we could clean up RUN/DOG) within what, 48 hours? You've certainly broken every other arrangement we have ever made since then. You are a bunch of shady characters that are an absolute pain to negotiate with, and you fully deserve what's coming to you.

WOW.. what a neck.

This is coming from a guild that struck out against SYN before communicating or getting the councils judgement.
"ADHD surrendered 05 to use as the galaxy to place our training guild in the DOGE->ADHD war." So why did we see your training guild in 07? This was never discussed with SYN.

You say that SYN have bad diplo communication but at least we communicated to try and get things sorted out. yours was actions first then talk. Then even after we came to an agreement you started to perma occ and hit original SYN. What did you think was gonna happen??
Your first action after seeing ADHD merge with SYN should of been contact with SYN. Even if that was WTF??? Then things would of been put in place to ease both sides. But YOU open fire without warning. Can anyone ever trust you? whats to say you don't put the law into your own hands again because you feel wronged.

ANYONE DEALING WITH DOGE SHOULD ASK THIS... WILL ANY GUILD BE SAFE TO INVADE ANOTHER CLUSTER IF DOGE SNIFF AN OPPORTUNITY?

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