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Freedom of Speech..Dead in Europe

Postby Logans Run » Sat 27 Oct, 2018 20:07

So i hear Europe wants to go back to the Medieval times when..if you said jack about your King or its religion, you might find yourself in the Iron Maiden or on the rack.
Basically..freedom of speech is soo passé. Story from 2009 below:

https://www.newsweek.com/calling-prophe ... es-1189031
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The European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) ruled that calling the Prophet Muhammad a pedophile was not protected by freedom of speech laws.

The case was brought by an Austrian woman in her forties identified only as "E.S.," who was convicted of disparaging religion and fined $546 for branding the founder of Islam a pedophile during a seminar in 2009.

According to Deutsche Welle, the court, which is based in Strasbourg, France, said the Austrian judge that first ruled on the case correctly weighed the woman’s “right to freedom of expression with the right of others to have their religious feelings protected, and served the legitimate aim of preserving religious peace in Austria.”

The charge stemmed from two seminars called “Basic Information on Islam” that had been organized by E.S. During the meetings, she spoke about Muhammad’s controversial marriage to Aisha, which, according to Islamic tradition, was consummated when she was 9 years old and Muhammad 50.
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Ironically, I bet if you were to say something like, "..no i dont like the Catholics, their priests are a bunch of pedophiles."
Nobody would bat an eye.

Ya know..i know this is a small platform ..and yes, i can be censored here, but in the U.S., i wont be fined for saying Mohammad liked to bugger lil boys n girls on the weekend. (All true btw)
But you there..reading this now in Europe? Well..best not agree with me or you can get dox'd and hunted down.
Lmao Europe..yeah, keep them socialist in power..they know whats best for you.

Yeah..this seems like an old story but its just hitting news again. I guess because the final ruling (censorship of your God given rights) struck her down.
Don't worry, Europe..Canada stands with you. If you call a sex-changed person by the wrong pronoun, you will be fined. (Calling a he, a she. And vice versa)
Can't let your "feelings" be hurt now, can we?
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Re: Freedom of Speech..Dead in Europe

Postby Uncle Ben » Sun 28 Oct, 2018 03:30

From my European point of view: I have to kick about half of the people I add on facebook off again, because I end up seeing them sharing racist ish or ish from one of our two racist parties here in Belgium. Usually the racist ish is aimed against arabs and or muslims in general. Racism is forbidden, yet rampant on Belgian fb statuses. Islamophobia isn't forbidden, but it's the same people doing it and it's hardly ever based on facts, and if it is they demonize all billions of muslims because one guy who claims to be muslim somewhere lost it for once and kinda messed up. In such cases, you'll see about the half the country shouting: "Islam is all bad! All muslims are bad! They have no place here! ..." etc.

This sentiment is for the largest part bred by our two racist parties. And sure, a minor part of it stems from honest frustration about "social inequality", but in the end ... It's a really f-ed up situation. The racist parties have been twisting and turning every slightly race or religion related fact for such a long time now, and exaggerated them so much, that about half the country can't even manage to discus these issues rationally anymore. But that's not all. The people running these racist parties are some damn f-ed up people. I actually have quite a hard time believing the vast majority of them give any two flying f's about anyones race or religion, they just infuriate people with racial nonsense in order to gain power and wealth. A cartoon that I've seen quite a few times comes to mind, which describes the current situation in Belgium perfectly in my opinion: We see a typical worker. In Belgium, we have a tradition of working harder than most. Only we also have a tradition of paying a hell of a lot more taxes than most and getting nothing in return for that. Say the worker earns ten cookies a day. What happens in Belgium, is a 1%-er will come along, take nine cookies because that's what he happens to feel like doing, and in order to get away with that, he shouts at the worker: Look out! There's an immigrant coming! He's gonna take your last cookie away! No less than 40% of our population falls for this utter bs.

Considering all that, I really think it's not so bad a court stands up against islamophobia, even if -yes- they do it in quite a sketchy way because -yes- the 'prophet" Muhammed allegedly did hump a nine year old which would undeniably make him a pedophile wouldn't it ... but oh no you just can't say that because oh no feelings. It's probably not the best way to aid combatting the rampant racism and islamophobia so many are falling for, because it's likely to infuriate them further, but I for one am not blaming this court for trying because I'm completely sick and tired of the 1% making my life a lot more miserable than it could be under the vilest of guises.

edit: I'll say even more: What I'm sick and tired of, is this holy "freedom of speech" of yours being utterly abused to talk only about whatever it is people FEEL like talking about, without almost any regard for the actual underlying true cold hard facts. The entire "Oh NoEz MuH FrEeDuMb Of SpEecH" movement seems to be even more guilty in the end of nonsense about their non-sensical "feels".
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Re: Freedom of Speech..Dead in Europe

Postby Logans Run » Sun 28 Oct, 2018 04:53

I don't mind your long rant..and totally understand it.
But you never touched on my main point till the end.

Yeah..i only know ONE side over here throwing the racial card out every time..thats the left.

The right is (imo) just bringing up "legitimate" concerns about a "certain section" of Muslims who are extreame.
Have etreame views.
For example..cant remember what European country it was..but one news guy infiltrated a Mosque with a camera for a few days. Recorded the leaders teaching young kids that the infidels are not to be trusted..ect ect.

Want me to find it for you??

Point is..i want my freedom to talk ish to anyone in America that even THINKS about spouting that Sharia law b.s. in MY streets.

So on the fake news networks like CNN for example..one person on the right might say "yes..i think these muslim bans (or in reality..its bans on certain countries where its hard to vet.) should be in effect for awhile."
Left cries racist. Basically try to shame or silence your opponent cuz you have no rebuttal worth a crap.

So no..its not about "saying" Muslims are all bad. But i DO want the right to speak my mind why i think your f'd up.
And go F your Sharia law from Mohammad the homo.

You want your freedoms gone..fine. Just stay over there then buddy. We dont need pacifist here. ..thats how the Muslim invasion of Europe is going to win.

Slippery slope..etc.
Im telling you Euro ppl as a friend..dont give up "any" freedoms of speech. Even hate speech is protected over here. ..and srsly, hardly any numb nuts uses hate speech anyways. But it's nice to know i can yell out the N word in Harlem if i want to die early.

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Re: Freedom of Speech..Dead in Europe

Postby Uncle Ben » Sun 28 Oct, 2018 13:30

More people in good ol' Murica died at gunpoint from toddlers last year than that there have been deaths from muslim terror attacks. So why not talk about that instead? Because it doesn't tickle you so much? No that good ol' freedom of saying whatever you want ... even if it's hate speech ... oh how holy it is ... even if 40% of the population starts doing that shiite? And clever politicians start shouting that nonsense too so you'd just vote for them already so afterwards they can screw everybody over? No.

If y'all right wingers are gonna insist on ABUSING freedom of speech to spread hate speech, and it turns out 40% of the country is stupid enough to want to base national policies on that shiite, then I'd rather have your freedumb of speech TAKEN AWAY so maybe you can SHUT UP for a while, maybe start to think for a bit, and finally start to f-in AC' RITE. There, I said it.

edit: Actually let's talk about gun deaths by toddlers. I can make up hate speech too you know. If more people die by gunshots fired by toddlers than there have been dying by muslim terror attacks, ain't I more or less right when I say: "Y'all ain't dying from muslim terror, y'all are dying from TOO MUCH FREEDOM to be TOO F-IN STUPID!?

edit2: Oh yeah that good ol' Murikanski freedom of letting a four year old toddler shoot me in the face ... Where's muh Green Card already!

edit3: In fact, don't bother replying. I'm not giving your retard level study of a certain middle-eastern religion any attention anymore.

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Re: Freedom of Speech..Dead in Europe

Postby Logans Run » Sun 28 Oct, 2018 18:31

A common tactic for the left. "Lets change the subject when i have no argument."

And you don't have one either. Your saying the Austrian lady shouldn't be allowed to say something like, "Perhaps Mohammad was a child molester.." ?

On what grounds are you saying she should be silenced? The excuse they used (feelings) or are you upping it to say its hate speech?
Stay focused here..not go off on some obvious b.s. about toddlers killing ppl far more the Muslims.
Got some facts anywhere anyways on that side-stepping issue?

Look..your obviously mad about this so perhaps you should just stay away from my points of view.
As i talk about a single issue..i dont need ppl bouncing all around on politicians..toddleder killers etc.

Every country has corrupt politicians. Can't be helped in our lifetime. You pick the lessor of two evils.
And for you to sit there and say only the right spews hate speech..lol.
You dont know jack about whats going on in America.

Go ahead and post it now. Say Mohammad is a homo even if you dont mean it.
You can't and feel totally safe you wont be fined by your country.
I can.
Christians are under assult here too. Politicians don't give a rats a**.

Anyways..take a deep breath and know im not tring to assult anyone. Im just defending free thought.
Austian lady did nothing wrong.
I dont need to spout other rant b.s. to make a point.

Edit: again, she just pointed out a FACT. Left cries "hate speech! Silence her!" ..yeah, nothing new here folks.

Edit 2 : Prophet Muhammad was a pedophile. Say it..i triple dog dare you! Perhaps that is what your reeally upset about. Being told that you can't say that ^

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Re: Freedom of Speech..Dead in Europe

Postby Winchester » Sun 28 Oct, 2018 23:10

lol at Christians being under attack.

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Re: Freedom of Speech..Dead in Europe

Postby Col. Caulker » Wed 31 Oct, 2018 05:50

wow, if this place wasn't such a massive dumpster fire of unphunneh, i would give this sht-the-bed fckerry of a post some serious intellectual consideration.

As it is, Uncle Benshiite has always been one of the worst posters in this aforementioned "dumpster fire"....short of screeching "FGTTT!!!! HUURRRRR!!! FGTFGTFGT!!!" like a tourettes-addled preadolescent exercising his first curse word most of the time, some of his best work was when he opted NOT to reply or post.

I do, however, give his "John Wick" toddler/fire-arm reference 3 out of 5 stars, so long as i ignore the fact that it has fck-all to do with freedom of speech in Eurotardia and defies statistics, especially if one considers all the STRAIGHT UP homicides perpetrated by "immigrants" (see? that's code speak for Pakis) in the EU. But i digress.

PS--for those of you NOT in the know, freedom of speech NEVER existed in Eurotardia or the Fcked-up-ed Teethdom. Our fcking guns in the US has fckall to do with your "union's" unwillingness to protect your freedom of expression in the face of Islam. Aloha Snackbar, motherfcker.

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Re: Freedom of Speech..Dead in Europe

Postby Logans Run » Wed 31 Oct, 2018 16:55

First off i would like to highly protest this movement of a serious topic from OG.
I completely understand it thou after Ben's meltdown where he "thought" i was attacking Muslims..which i wasn't ofc.
But..since he went down that road of trash..i followed it fairly easy.

So the move..ok, i get it. But im not into TT'n anymore. Just like to bring up serious topics once in awhile.
If the old OG threads i started long ago were still up..like a couple i did on religion (which were multi-paged), i could have shown..almost swear, you ben, have trashed Christianity. Sooo your basically a hypocrite but that's okay..arent we all?

P.S. SINCE this is now in TT... Muhammad sucks old cheesy dicks.

Oh yeah and since it may be true about the toddler killers..all i gotta say is cool! Trumps doing his job then of cracking down on Muslim extremist.

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Re: Freedom of Speech..Dead in Europe

Postby Uncle Ben » Wed 31 Oct, 2018 21:44

all a y'all except my space lawyer here are doing an excellent job of completely missing the point. About just about everything. Congrats, have an OD.

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Re: Freedom of Speech..Dead in Europe

Postby Logans Run » Thu 01 Nov, 2018 02:23

Your point? Yeah i heard it. Hear it ALL the time from MSLSD and the Clinton News Network.
Right wingers spew hate..etc etc..are retarded..etc etc..need to stfu..etc etc.

You fit right into thier broken record talking points.


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Re: Freedom of Speech..Dead in Europe

Postby Col. Caulker » Thu 01 Nov, 2018 03:13

Uncle Ben wrote:all a y'all except my space lawyer here are doing an excellent job of completely missing the point. About just about everything. Congrats, have an OD.
lol, nice rebuttal, fcktard!

I would compel you to illustrate "what point" was missed, but you'd only disappoint me once i realized you weren't a trisomy downer. I "think" the point YOU missed, Corky, was that the discussion was centered around the (concept) of freedom of speech, to which you went into a tourettes-addled diatribe on guns. lolz.

way to go, Cap'n Shortbus

:D

Anyway, please, lecture to us all MORE about "missed points"

PS...my toddler would (most likely) happily shoot you in the face. But, like a good yank, i buy my handguns large and high caliber...which means he'll be at least 5 before he can hold up a liquor store with it.

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Re: Freedom of Speech..Dead in Europe

Postby Uncle Ben » Thu 01 Nov, 2018 09:08

Uncle Ben wrote:all a y'all except my space lawyer here are doing an excellent job of completely missing the point. About just about everything. Congrats, have an OD.

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Re: Freedom of Speech..Dead in Europe

Postby Uncle Ben » Thu 01 Nov, 2018 09:37

Just NO

-No you guys aren't right
-No you're not gonna yell, scream, curse, swear me into being a right winger
-No I'm not impressed by y'all ability to perfectly mimic arsehats
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Just NO

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Re: Freedom of Speech..Dead in Europe

Postby Logans Run » Thu 01 Nov, 2018 13:19

So yer done with the gun rant? And no other real argument. Ok kewl. :sleep:

I gotta go make that Trump cash.

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Re: Freedom of Speech..Dead in Europe

Postby Col. Caulker » Fri 02 Nov, 2018 03:17

Uncle Ben wrote:Just NO

-No you guys aren't right
-No you're not gonna yell, scream, curse, swear me into being a right winger
-No I'm not impressed by y'all ability to perfectly mimic arsehats
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Just NO
lol, silly twat, no one's trying to change your mind. It'll take years of therapy and meds to get you beyond the mindless drivel and pap you've willingly swallowed over your lifetime. I'm just trying to illustrate to the world that dozie bints like you are one triggering incident away from smearing your own *beep* on your own bedroom walls and calling it art.

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