ASG / DSA - Ceti History

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Sept 2007




Sister guild in 2007.

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Early 2008

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Mid/Late 2008






Notes: Originally the training guild of SETDT.

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May 2009


# To maximize production/econ/research and hinder becoming a pillage target, follow these rules:

* NEVER EVER build economy buildings before base defenses.
(Economy buildings = Economic Centers / Spaceports / Crystal Mines)
* Choose your astro's wisely. Preferable get all bases with metal 3, rocky moon at best and with 3 or 4 solar/gas

energy.
* Never mix Research and Production in the start of the base's life, research labs can wait until you have build defence

on your base's.
* Never build more than one base in one system and never more than 2 bases per region.

Also, make these numbers your goal: ( (..) for free accounts )

o 25 (20)metal refineries
o 20 (15)Robotic Factories.
o 15 (5)Nanite Factories.
o 10 (5)Android factories.
o 25 (22)Research Labs (research base)
o 26 (22) Shipyards (Production base) [30 max]
o Minimum 12 shipyards on each base (same for free acconts) this is absolutely required !!
o 20 (15) SpacePorts
o 15 (10) Command Centers [20 max]
o 5 (3) Orbital Shipyards (production base)
o 2 JG on each base


AND NEVER! Leave unshielded defenses like: 'Laser, Missile, Plasma turrets' along side with shielded turrets.
If you find yourself short of space, replace solar/gas plants with fusion/antimatter plants & increase energy Tech level.

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2010 - AE Wiki

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Post 501 Merging into ASG.

Note:
Angus Thermopyle
501 Varel Stoneheart
(Members of 501 previously).

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V4V, GM of ASG since Sandcat departed. (Look at the account numbers )

2008-2009


(from the Ultramarines guild)

2010


2011

(One of V4V's many previous accounts)

2012

Another account of V4V's...

2013+


2018
At the end of January 2018, HeiHo had attacked ASG and demolished V4V's mobile, and he has been struggling to build a new

fleet. It just so happens that this new account has 580m fleet. Isn't that a surprise. ( )



Also since he highlighted it on his 2013-2018 profile. Details of his new account:
Tech


XP


Old 2013 account info (inc fleet; changeover 04/04/2018)




Notes:

The 2013 account had previously belonged to that of [SSJ] Sidius (then later, [HeiHo] Sidius); which had earned the good

chunk of XP it had already, as well as the tech.

This, however, shows an interesting aspect of V4V's teachings onto his guild members.



30 PR, 20 PS should have no more than 1 dread on it. Anything more than this is just contributing derbs to the opponent.

"may have to spend time teaching you something you should realised YEARS..AGO"

Is this the encouraging of other players to switch accounts as he had done? Clearly, correct teaching isn't being passed

down to newer players...

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Fan Page

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System Copy Savebox 14 Mar 2018, 03:41:46
A base of player [HeiHo] Ganthis was disbanded.....

When he disbanded bases, he didn't keep the one in his guild's stronghold territory in the C00's area (1 base in C07, 1 in

C08 & 3 in C09). Nooooo he disbanded and left the base in ASG's territory; and right near where Lord Killer has his bases in

C53.. and this attack was in C54.... My oh my such a coincidence.



And unsurprisingly was kicked...



But awesome pillage

System Copy Savebox 19 Mar 2018, 16:23:27
The game account of player Ganthis was deleted and therefore removed from your contacts list.

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ASG's first "casualty" of the rules change in occupation's.






(Announcement)



The origins of the account were back in 2007 with VAN. This lasted for approximately 3 years.



The name-change to Wind came about in late 2010/early 2011, with time in ROCKY.



[*] Participated in ASU/SU Crash of 2011

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Timeline: ASG v1.0 > DSA > ASG v2.0 (current)

[*DSA*] Sandcat70 Reply - Block Player - Report - Copy Savebox 16 Dec 2010, 18:45:51
To the leaders of the SU......

Some have said things about DSA wanting to hit Heiho on Christmas this is BS...I dont expect anyone to believe me and thats fine to.....our target was WAR and always was......

The trust is obviously not there anymore and thats fine to.......

I am officially announcing we will leave the SU. This doesnt mean we are your enemies...

You will need to decide for yourselves where that leaves us. I am asking for 48 hours for members of DSA not wishing to stand alone to find another home and then the free for all can start...

I hold many of you in my heart as friends, I hope some of you will chose to keep it that way.....

We will not have any alliances at this point unless some of you wish to have Naps. MDP's etc......I also would like to offer a 1k occ ruling with you after the 48 hours is up.......

We are not allied to the ASU and wont be, some have decided to post that crap as well......

This server needs a change if we die doing it thats fine as well but we wont go down easy and we wont give up. If you wish to discuss this I am here and I will also except any members that may want to fight with us. I hope you understand our choice and respect it......

I do not believe in spying and wont send spies to your guilds.

Thanks and your friend always

Sandcat

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4th Sept 2012 - Argument between ASG v KOW/DT

[03/09/2012 7:36:32] D/V4V/DARKWOLFE: anyone wonder why bsmf not killing dt scouts ... starting to smell again
[03/09/2012 21:11:02] MagicSwan: [lunes, 03 de septiembre de 2012 2:53] D/V4V/DARKWOLFE:
<<< anyone wonder why bsmf not killing dt scouts ... starting to smell again— D/V4V/DARKWOLFE, lunes, 03 de septiembre de 2012 2:53Maybe you have your nose too close to the mouth
　
[04/09/2012 4:23:45] D/V4V/DARKWOLFE: yep we did in 36
[04/09/2012 4:23:49] D/V4V/DARKWOLFE: he recalled
[04/09/2012 4:23:54] D/V4V/DARKWOLFE: like magic as usua;l
[04/09/2012 4:25:08] Cioci: They are good players, they are always online. At least big fleets owners.
[04/09/2012 4:25:15] D/V4V/DARKWOLFE: no there not good players
[04/09/2012 4:25:18] D/V4V/DARKWOLFE: they use proxys
[04/09/2012 4:25:22] D/V4V/DARKWOLFE: log in each other
[04/09/2012 4:25:27] D/V4V/DARKWOLFE: and let me be clear in public
[04/09/2012 4:25:34] D/V4V/DARKWOLFE: i charget dt with heliping them
[04/09/2012 4:26:43] Cioci: Naaaa, i can't believe DT are helping them. If they are doing it they are betraying SU and i know they don't want it.
[04/09/2012 4:27:39] D/V4V/DARKWOLFE: well . i said my bit
[04/09/2012 4:27:46] D/V4V/DARKWOLFE: juist saying this chat is no longer secure
[04/09/2012 4:27:51] D/V4V/DARKWOLFE: so i wont post targets here anymore
[04/09/2012 4:28:12] Cioci: This chat was never safe since we hunt smurf.
[04/09/2012 4:28:58] Cioci: I can't trust all people here, of course, i haven't see the most of them posting a bit here, so i can't do it. But i can't say they helped Smurfs or they are helping bsmf ...
[04/09/2012 10:03:39] MagicSwan: [martes, 04 de septiembre de 2012 4:25] D/V4V/DARKWOLFE:
<<< no there not good players
they use proxys
log in each other
and let me be clear in public
i charget dt with heliping them
What the *beep* is wrong with you ???
[04/09/2012 10:04:40] D/V4V/DARKWOLFE: right back at u magic
[04/09/2012 10:06:17] D/V4V/DARKWOLFE: maybe u shoudl check what ur own diplo sends to me with threats and insults
[04/09/2012 10:06:33] D/V4V/DARKWOLFE: u should not throw stones if u live in a glass house
[04/09/2012 10:07:45] MagicSwan: And how can i check what anyone sends if it is not in my in box ???
[04/09/2012 10:07:54] D/V4V/DARKWOLFE: shes ur diplo
[04/09/2012 10:08:00] D/V4V/DARKWOLFE: u saying u 2 dont talk at all ?
[04/09/2012 10:08:33] MagicSwan: That was not what what i say
[04/09/2012 10:08:53] D/V4V/DARKWOLFE: wellw hat are u saying then
[04/09/2012 10:10:44] MagicSwan: I respond to what you are saying, how can i know what she sends to you, maybe you can send me all that ...
[04/09/2012 10:12:10] D/V4V/DARKWOLFE: sure be happy to
[04/09/2012 10:12:17] D/V4V/DARKWOLFE: and ill send my responce also
[04/09/2012 10:13:53] MagicSwan: but to sit here and say we are helping BSFM, that is a low life comment
[04/09/2012 10:14:51] D/V4V/DARKWOLFE: OH PLS in 3 seperate incidents
[04/09/2012 10:14:54] D/V4V/DARKWOLFE: a dt scout landed
[04/09/2012 10:15:00] D/V4V/DARKWOLFE: and dt scout arrived
[04/09/2012 10:15:07] D/V4V/DARKWOLFE: sorry bsmf scout arrived
[04/09/2012 10:15:15] D/V4V/DARKWOLFE: or bsmf magically recalled less then an hour later
[04/09/2012 10:15:28] D/V4V/DARKWOLFE: is this all just a co incidence ?
[04/09/2012 10:16:25] MagicSwan: And i say you are talking BS, you are paranoid
[04/09/2012 10:16:28] D/V4V/DARKWOLFE: anways pm sent
[04/09/2012 10:16:40] D/V4V/DARKWOLFE: sure dt hit ia and im paranoid lol
[04/09/2012 10:16:45] D/V4V/DARKWOLFE: maybe its a good thing i am magic
[04/09/2012 10:16:52] D/V4V/DARKWOLFE: take offence to that or not its ur life
[04/09/2012 10:24:31] MagicSwan: So we are back there now, DT did not have anything thing with that hit to do Wookie and i did make that plan long before we merge and we did have our reson ... We hit them becouse they where infiltrated lol
[04/09/2012 10:25:20] D/V4V/DARKWOLFE: well that story is different then u all told months ago
[04/09/2012 10:26:24] MagicSwan: No it is not, it is the same story maybr not the same words
[04/09/2012 10:27:10] MagicSwan: Where did you send that pm ?
[04/09/2012 10:28:35] D/V4V/DARKWOLFE: to u
[04/09/2012 10:29:13] MagicSwan: Nothing in my inbox ?
[04/09/2012 10:30:10] D/V4V/DARKWOLFE: well i sent it
[04/09/2012 10:31:10] MagicSwan: Now i did have it
[04/09/2012 11:05:23] MagicSwan: Ya she may trolling you around for the fun, but where do we betray SU in any way, and all i can see in that pm is you want us out from SU, but you see we have bean SU from the start long before ASG where a guild, and a freindly war, ya that is for the fun, but you are to bizy to farm what is left of BSFM as i see it has become ridiculous, even if i like them or not ...By the way that pm you sent me, i'm posting here, maybe ppl can break it down, as i'm living in a glasshouse lol
[04/09/2012 11:05:31] MagicSwan:

[*ASG*] V4V *ASG* Reply - Copy Savebox - Block Player - Report 4 Sep 2012, 14:30:08

FROM:[DT] Master Wookie Reply - Copy Savebox - Block Player - Report 4 Sep 2012, 03:49:51
How ya doing buddy? We haven't talked for awhile.
In other news

From

[DT] Rocket Dog Reply - Copy Savebox - Block Player - Report 3 Sep 2012, 05:54:41
can you pm v4v that given the time lapse from the time i offered the friendly war challenge to now, ill take it that he had from the start had no intention to see this war out, in any case should of said something instead of acting in front of our SU leaders that he accepts it. next time come strong or stay home. and dont waste our time for heaven sakes.

TO:

[DT] Master Wookie Msg - Copy Savebox 4 Sep 2012, 04:09:26
can u not post messages from her
well these are the facts she and i havce issues i offered a one on one she said no
then offered that
as both are part of the su i dont find such an offer acceptable in any degree
too me its this simple dt attack asg we have a war
dt leave su then we will see
i have no intention to pandering to rd needs.. and her insults and words causes no reaction or action.
and yeah well if u stay in dt dude idk what i could possibly say to u at this point
v4

[04/09/2012 12:43:19] Cioci: Ehy Magic, there is no best answer than hitting one of the biggest BSMF's fleet remained.
[04/09/2012 12:44:33] Nike: well, i helped to take Karisha fleet some days ago
[04/09/2012 12:47:38] Nike: that counts too?
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[12/09/2012 20:36:14] D/V4V/DARKWOLFE:

[*ASG*] Skittles - {IA} Reply - Copy Savebox - Block Player - Report 13 Sep 2012, 00:32:53
Forward Battle Report
Battle Report
Location danb8 (C16:XX:XX:XX)
Time 2012-09-12 21:55:06
Server Ceti
Attack Force
Player [DT] Dan lvl 105.54
Fleet Name c u as threat
Defensive Force
Player [*ASG*] Skittles - {IA} lvl 70.72
Fleet Name Mango Tango 8 (Destroyed)
Attack Force
Unit Start Quant. End Quant. Power Armour Shield
Battleship 5798 5677.71 327.6 332.8 20.5
Defensive Force
Unit Start Quant. End Quant. Power Armour Shield
Fighters 28360 0 5.04 4.93 0
Destroyer 144 0 18.9 19.74 0
Cruiser 35 0 56.7 59.22 4.1
Carrier 337 0 25.2 59.22 4.1
Leviathan 2 0 17850 16285.5 82
Total cost of units destroyed: 929360 ( Attacker: 240000 ; Defender: 689360 )
Experience: ( Attacker: +20864 ; Defender: +69347 )
New debris in space: 525854

[12/09/2012 20:36:27] D/V4V/DARKWOLFE: for all ur records
[12/09/2012 20:36:30] D/V4V/DARKWOLFE: DT HIT ASG FIRST
[12/09/2012 20:40:35] D/V4V/DARKWOLFE: kris if ur on pm me immediately pls
[12/09/2012 20:40:44] D/V4V/DARKWOLFE: sorry after that i am not talking to any dt

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Since MagicSwan passed away in 2019, there is no need to keep this information confidential anymore. This information was sent to me on Beta, and has languished in my Savebox since it's arrival.

This information is in relation to the GentlemanJack account on Ceti.

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Argument between ASG + KOW SU Chat over the derbing of IA:

ASG was discovered to be attempting to pull IA away from KOW (IA was classed as a TG (very loosely, they never did any training lol). The ASG GM at the time, V4V, strenuously denied it demanding that they prove it. Unfortunately Zadius (IA GM) fessed up to KOW about the plans with ASG.

KOW requested that IA should move next to them for "an op" of which they complied. Once all major fleets had landed, KOW removed IA from their position as a TG and derbed them a few seconds later. ASG later declared that the remaining IA fleets were a protectorate.

The link to the chat is the SU Council fall out about it, that can be found:> here

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ASG Announcement (2012); acquisition of -V-.

WABBIPHOBE! V4V *ASG* Quote Msg Report 5 Jun 2012, 04:08:12
HIGH

so i has some news..

* the former asu guild known as "V" are mergeing into us becomming ASG some will have vgm roles, there trade guy will help our trade guy,, there jg guy help our jg guy,.., this is all very good cause we all get help so dont have to work so hard

* THOSE V arriving pls if u have any issues pm me dont take it out onthe boards
* THOSE ASG same goes for u
* NOT everyone will be joining and not everyone will stay unless u have GOOD CARACTER, ACTIVE, EG FLEET JG BUILDING OR SCOUTING I Promise u NONE of u will last (asg or v)

this is very good we have more jgs, more fleet, but better to me at least V has shown to be a much better su guild then at least 2 which i wont name and there help for many months while nothing was offered in return made me accept this is a good future step for server and asg.... AND yes kris knows and NO this is not asg splitting from su and if anyone thinks such stupid thoughts ill slap u with a tuna ( i again for the public will support kris no matter the situation)

* those v who occupied by su u need to pm me withbase location if they dont be released in 24 hours of me pmming said person ur authorised to clear ur bases whoever the guild occing u are

AS ALWAYS U CAN PM ME UR THOUGHTS OR QUESTIONS ILL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER BUT REALISE IT IS IMPOSIBLE TO MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY ALL THE TIME.. A TEAM.. IS A TEAM..

(DS Note: In V4V's statement of, " V has shown to be a much better su guild then at least 2 which i wont name", he was referring to:
[*] OmLo; &
[*] Dojo.)

(Notes: The merger took place a few weeks before the derbing of IA. Though it's interesting to note that the ASG GM, V4V, was complaining that other guilds had taken in former ASU guild members, despite his guild doing it too).