As the subject states I am proposing a slight adjustment to base recovery. The ongoing theme for changes to AE has been to increase activity but we don't want people to fall behind after a single bit of action.
Currently a base with 185 econ is hit and is knocked down to 132 economy.
Once this base is fully regenerated I will have lost 17,172 total econ.
If you have 10 bases at this econ when hit you will have lost 171,720 total econ. Not too mention the TR loss and the added fleet maintenance.
A4 invasion we were caught out of position defending one area of our cluster from assault and was invaded in another area of our cluster. (No complaints was good teamwork by the invaders) Dropping from 4100+ econ down to 1600 at one point. I had 0 fleet maintenance before hand and afterwards because I saved my fleet was 330 FM. A further penalty to being invaded. I saved my TR by canceling but has been difficult to get decent ones back due to damaged bases.
So my proposal is to either increase base recovery to 2 econ per 12 hours or 1 econ per 8 hours.
With 2 per 12 single base econ loss from just one base is 8,748 econ in total using the base econ above.
with 1 per 8 hours the econ loss is 11,440.
Combined this with the freshly proposed changes for TR's from Wiz and I feel this could be beneficial to both sides to not only allow the attacker to pull ahead from successful ops (which they definitely should), but not be so extremely punishing to the defenders.
Adjustment to Base recovery.
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Adjustment to Base recovery.
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You need to show the math for how this will reduce base pillages.
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Re: Adjustment to Base recovery.
Honestly haven't thought about the base pillage aspect. I just think that a change of some sort might be helpful as far as not punishing a defender for over a month in regards the events over a 24 hour or less period.
As far as "reduced pillages" do you mean something like the amount an attacker will get if they re-pillage a base? Or the frequency of said base/s getting pillaged?
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Re: Adjustment to Base recovery.
Currently the pillage amount you gain from hitting a base is equal to the amount of income the base loses due to having to recover. This is to prevent abuse. If bases provided the same pillage but recovered more quickly then it would be better to just keep hitting bases as the net amount of credits would be positive. 2 players could agree to just keep hitting each other’s bases. Since more credits are generated from the pillage then amount lost due to base incomes being lower the two players would be exploiting the system.
If bases recover faster then pillage amounts would have to be decreased. This would lead to many complaining that hitting bases is not worth it. You also have to attend with the change and it’s relationship to base defenses. Currently base defenses, pillage, and recovery are balanced.
If bases recover faster then pillage amounts would have to be decreased. This would lead to many complaining that hitting bases is not worth it. You also have to attend with the change and it’s relationship to base defenses. Currently base defenses, pillage, and recovery are balanced.
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the base econ recovery does need to be looked at though. we got higher econ's in 3.0/4.0 from the increased crystal but that just meant after being hit it takes even longer to recover. We already have very limited places to fly to hit stuff and the increased econ just made it a little worse. think 1.5/2.0 it was like 32days for a 200 econ base to fully recover? 200 econ base on 3.0/4.0 is a good 45+ econ higher which added over a week extra for recovery.
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Re: Adjustment to Base recovery.
They may be balanced with each other, but they're not balanced as a whole.Philosopher Cody wrote: ↑Sat 18 Nov, 2023 15:44Currently the pillage amount you gain from hitting a base is equal to the amount of income the base loses due to having to recover. This is to prevent abuse. If bases provided the same pillage but recovered more quickly then it would be better to just keep hitting bases as the net amount of credits would be positive. 2 players could agree to just keep hitting each other’s bases. Since more credits are generated from the pillage then amount lost due to base incomes being lower the two players would be exploiting the system.
If bases recover faster then pillage amounts would have to be decreased. This would lead to many complaining that hitting bases is not worth it. You also have to attend with the change and it’s relationship to base defenses. Currently base defenses, pillage, and recovery are balanced.
As stated, before I have a base that is 73 hrs from being hit. It is now earning an income of 149/204. I am still 28 days from being back on par with other people of the server. Multiply that by 12 other bases that are damaged for the next month. Increase that to a half a guild.
Then add in the lost income from decent TR. Finding a perfect TR is impossible with a base that has just been hit. So, I either self-trade or trade with someone in the guild therefore still losing more income to a LD unique. Or find a subpar TR of smaller distance that I am just going to replace down the road anyways.
I would even say that it is now worse in 4.0. Already you can tell there is increased activity and travel across the board. (This is a good thing). But most new mechanics have resulted in keeping people from falling behind such as FM and combat loot. This is clearly another mechanic that should be looked at to be updated.
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