28 days later...a new post in Fenix!

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Re: 28 days later...a new post in Fenix!

Postby UR Enemy » Wed 20 Feb, 2013 23:49

Fate may of as you put it - the last stab on TE - however, you mentioned quite a few times that SL and previous tags SL members are from have committed many AE war crimes, so I for one love to see Fate wiping you guys out of Fenix!

Whats funny is even though you have asked for terms, you think Fate should accept your terms - when it you guys crying and begging for cease fire - when you are desperate for ceasefire - you should accept what is given to you - or face what you are facing - complete and utter destruction of each member of SL!
alexei wrote:yes, indeed.

we were the ones who invaded a cluster of a guild we were pacted with (WoG, long time ago).

we were the ones who scurried an ally out of their home cluster, barely giving enough warning (XI, first time around).

we were the ones who were never there to support our allies (XI, back in the beggining. DZR. RAVE/others. Noise. even !!!!.)

we were also the ones that backstabbed our ally, who was blobbing with us and making combined ops with us (!!!!).


yes, we were the backstabbing SoBs, every time. this is not a guild using it's power to put down their biggest threats, it's nothing like that.

please take into consideration i'm not insulting anyone here. you are using that power, you have every right to it, and no one is to say otherwise. just don't coat it with lies.

PS: ain't it funny that it was actually Fate who put the final stab on TE, back when they dissolved? a stab that we spared them of? how quaint.

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Re: 28 days later...a new post in Fenix!

Postby alexei » Wed 20 Feb, 2013 23:54

no one is desperate for anything here.

we are sad, that's about it. it would be awesomely cool if guilds were a lot more reasonable in their dealings, bug i guess that went out the window since !!!! suicided, so dunno.

2 things will come out of this, either fate takes too long to eat our fleets/spawns, and eventually we get organized enough to fight back, and noise will be huge and take on everyone else if they so wish, or SL gets kicked out of the server, and it will be a lot emptier, until fate and noise go at it, making one of them leave, thus finishing fenix for real.

like, there are players on the top 1000 with 0 levels, lol.

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Re: 28 days later...a new post in Fenix!

Postby UR Enemy » Thu 21 Feb, 2013 00:30

There is more guilds on fenix than Gamma or helion and they are younger servers, so think Fenix will be fine without SL, if SL are not willing to agree to terms given by Fate.

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Re: 28 days later...a new post in Fenix!

Postby TheSenator » Thu 21 Feb, 2013 09:08

1. SL disbands all of its bases in F30-34 and agrees not to build there ever again except for a single base adjacent to any wh that may appear there ( if you can). [Note: Tank had agreed to disband SL's bases in F30-33 as part of the agreement under which Fate and XI allowed SL to leave F58 unmolested after WNS suicided into them; needless to say, Tank never upheld his side of the agreement. For reference, SL has 16 bases in F30-34.]

2. SL causes its spies and multi accounts in Fate and TE to identify themselves to Fate and TE leadership.

3. SL disbands enough in-flight fleet to put the server on a more equal footing for smaller guilds.

4. any ceasefire covers both Fate and TE and expires 30 days after Fate and TE split. [Note: SL's first request for unconditional ceasefire had only a 3 day cancellation period]

5. ceasefire goes into effect only when SL has performed items 1-3.
1. even if you loose a war or a battle ,never disband bases.can be used as future ops
2. oooo...spies..what can you do without hem..find them if you can
3-5. an army is defeated in battle , never disbanded with a signature.

these terms are made to create tensions and are the bases of the future storm. :)
i'm not part of this server but as an impartial part ,regardless of the past events of F, these demands noone would comply regardless of the outcome of an war.
if you want to strike back,never comply.

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Re: 28 days later...a new post in Fenix!

Postby mr deejay » Fri 22 Feb, 2013 02:21

Fate and TE still have the same mindset that !!!!! had a couple years ago: That somehow eradicating bases in the 30s is going to deter an enemy from reaching and occupying a stronghold. At this time of the server, it isn't feasible to make that a term of peace. High Warp techs and F35 makes it plainly obvious that the 30s are reachable. The very essence of that term shows how infantile Fate's diplomacy skills are when dealing with other guilds. News Flash!!! If you have a WH in your galaxy set that you control, it takes 12 hours to get there.

What you should be more worried about is that SL has the 2nd best JG network in the game, next to Noise...in some cases they might be equals. Moving people out of the 30s in that case is a moot point. You aren't safe just because we moved our gates...What if SL complies then joins another guild for an op? Then we can use their bases to springboard into your territory. Again, a moot point.

I would suggest you drop the "forced migration" talk because it makes you look foolish, Reliance. You aren't Exar and Fate isn't XI...not even close.

Next topic:

Your ramblings about keeping the server "fair" by derbing SL is also infantile and a bit hypocritical. You say you want to even out the server by keeping SL under your thumb, but you let Noise and XI grow. That isn't a very good use of your power. XI proposed alot to the rest of the server, but they did it in force. You are coming off the same way. Is your Fate similar to XI's?


I would appreciate and respect you much more Reliance, if you weren't coveting so many lies and half-truths. SL can weather the storm, but you put yourself in a precarious situation. XI and Noise run the teens. Their alliance could threaten you. Add that to an SL "Server NAP" when they do and you could be looking at a combined XI/Noise assault, with SL gate assistance.


The wisest decision here is to go back home, you derbed almost 1B fleet, and go to the server bargaining table with the rest of us. We get it, you are a bunch of tough guys in the absence of other tough guys, but it's alot easier to kick Fate/TEs butt if the server combines than any other guild thus far. You guys aren't entirely bright enough to pull off this stunt and we don't mind waiting. The longer you mess around with derbing us, the more vulnerable you are to the people you have to your backs.

You can try to be as diplomatic as your brain is able, but the writing's on the wall. You are playing into the hands of the server and getting played. You guys think you are on top, but another super-blob gets created and we all sit where your coverage is the least and you can be staring at a nightmare you could have prevented. If you are thinking about how tight Noise is with Fate and trusting that NAP, think about who they just partnered with to take down the largest guild in the server. They certainly didn't do it with you. When there is money to be made with a bunch of noobs spread out all over the server, SL can easily recoup those 1B losses with your lazy, camping noobs.

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Re: 28 days later...a new post in Fenix!

Postby KAMI » Fri 22 Feb, 2013 22:16

Well... to sum this up... SL won every single war in this server... Fate cant irradiate anyone even with 200X their numbers even if its 95% support fleet but whatever... probably makes them feel like they won something, ... Noise are just a bunch of pussies that call themselves allies to another guild just to let them... XI is an amazingly dignified loser (oh right... exar and his partners are gone, i get it now)

I cant wait for...

Fate to split up with TE... lol, like that was ever going to happen without Fate kicking them out
Noise comes out of simming... probably like 2016, who are they going to ally this time so they can win something... maybe Fate
XI to have fighting fleet
SL to have fighting fleet... probably like 2016, or if any of the other pussy's get tired of a master simmer (Fate) in the server like there was in Delta (the difference was in delta that guild knew what to do, unlike Fate, with even fleet count)

See you guys in 201X

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Re: 28 days later...a new post in Fenix!

Postby KAMI » Fri 22 Feb, 2013 22:18

Oh... and to that guy that said that Fate was involved in many wars... heres a big fat LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL


Pretty sure, Doa, Oor, and stealing derbs doesnt count...

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Re: 28 days later...a new post in Fenix!

Postby Rean » Sun 24 Feb, 2013 00:29

And then kami woke up, discovering he had a wet dream

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Re: 28 days later...a new post in Fenix!

Postby Snafe » Tue 05 Mar, 2013 21:18

1. SL disbands all of its bases in F30-34 and agrees not to build there ever again except for a single base adjacent to any wh that may appear there ( if you can). [Note: Tank had agreed to disband SL's bases in F30-33 as part of the agreement under which Fate and XI allowed SL to leave F58 unmolested after WNS suicided into them; needless to say, Tank never upheld his side of the agreement. For reference, SL has 16 bases in F30-34.]

2. SL causes its spies and multi accounts in Fate and TE to identify themselves to Fate and TE leadership.

3. SL disbands enough in-flight fleet to put the server on a more equal footing for smaller guilds.

4. any ceasefire covers both Fate and TE and expires 30 days after Fate and TE split. [Note: SL's first request for unconditional ceasefire had only a 3 day cancellation period]

5. ceasefire goes into effect only when SL has performed items 1-3.
Disbands Enough in flight fleet to be on an equal footing with the smaller guilds...? You really think people are going to fall for that one?
Also, where are the demands for Mspaints and other self gratifying artworks?

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Re: 28 days later...a new post in Fenix!

Postby The Ed » Thu 07 Mar, 2013 09:07

Lol this thread is funny

Teh Winter is coming to a galaxy near you
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Re: 28 days later...a new post in Fenix!

Postby ejaret » Fri 08 Mar, 2013 00:58

No matter how you spin it, it was a pure *beep* move by fate to sit out the war then immediately declare on sl after they spent all their active combat fleet.

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Re: 28 days later...a new post in Fenix!

Postby mr deejay » Sun 17 Mar, 2013 07:22

Even to this very day, Fate continues to slaughter lower guilds because they are nothing but a bunch of bottom-feeders. They are the coyotes of Fenix: never around to take down a large prey, but they will surround you when you are wounded and try with all their effort to take you down. They will never have the gall to fight someone straight up. Their chances of success depend if the outcome is 200 to 1.

That is pretty sad...

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Re: 28 days later...a new post in Fenix!

Postby Rebellion » Sun 24 Mar, 2013 02:33

mr deejay wrote:Even to this very day, Fate continues to slaughter lower guilds because they are nothing but a bunch of bottom-feeders. They are the coyotes of Fenix: never around to take down a large prey, but they will surround you when you are wounded and try with all their effort to take you down. They will never have the gall to fight someone straight up. Their chances of success depend if the outcome is 200 to 1.

That is pretty sad...

this is funny coming from SL, which are the bottom feeders of this server. I can't remember a time when SL went 1 on 1 with even numbers. if they did, it had to be in the first couple of weeks of server. SL is full of simmers, you guys had low XP until this crash and Fate Derbing ya. And like all guilds, there is couple worth while players in SL, but mr deejay is not one. If it was up to SL, that crash with XI would never had happen, it was Noise that made the big push for this crash, and they did it without knowing they would win or not. it was close for a bit too, the funny thing was all the big SL fleets coming in late. I'm glad you did that though, otherwise we wouldn't have made as much credits as we did:P

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Re: 28 days later...a new post in Fenix!

Postby Snafe » Mon 25 Mar, 2013 12:45

mr deejay wrote:Fate and TE still have the same mindset that !!!!! had a couple years ago: That somehow eradicating bases in the 30s is going to deter an enemy from reaching and occupying a stronghold. At this time of the server, it isn't feasible to make that a term of peace. High Warp techs and F35 makes it plainly obvious that the 30s are reachable. The very essence of that term shows how infantile Fate's diplomacy skills are when dealing with other guilds. News Flash!!! If you have a WH in your galaxy set that you control, it takes 12 hours to get there.

What you should be more worried about is that SL has the 2nd best JG network in the game, next to Noise...in some cases they might be equals. Moving people out of the 30s in that case is a moot point. You aren't safe just because we moved our gates...What if SL complies then joins another guild for an op? Then we can use their bases to springboard into your territory. Again, a moot point.

I would suggest you drop the "forced migration" talk because it makes you look foolish, Reliance. You aren't Exar and Fate isn't XI...not even close.

Next topic:

Your ramblings about keeping the server "fair" by derbing SL is also infantile and a bit hypocritical. You say you want to even out the server by keeping SL under your thumb, but you let Noise and XI grow. That isn't a very good use of your power. XI proposed alot to the rest of the server, but they did it in force. You are coming off the same way. Is your Fate similar to XI's?


I would appreciate and respect you much more Reliance, if you weren't coveting so many lies and half-truths. SL can weather the storm, but you put yourself in a precarious situation. XI and Noise run the teens. Their alliance could threaten you. Add that to an SL "Server NAP" when they do and you could be looking at a combined XI/Noise assault, with SL gate assistance.


The wisest decision here is to go back home, you derbed almost 1B fleet, and go to the server bargaining table with the rest of us. We get it, you are a bunch of tough guys in the absence of other tough guys, but it's alot easier to kick Fate/TEs butt if the server combines than any other guild thus far. You guys aren't entirely bright enough to pull off this stunt and we don't mind waiting. The longer you mess around with derbing us, the more vulnerable you are to the people you have to your backs.

You can try to be as diplomatic as your brain is able, but the writing's on the wall. You are playing into the hands of the server and getting played. You guys think you are on top, but another super-blob gets created and we all sit where your coverage is the least and you can be staring at a nightmare you could have prevented. If you are thinking about how tight Noise is with Fate and trusting that NAP, think about who they just partnered with to take down the largest guild in the server. They certainly didn't do it with you. When there is money to be made with a bunch of noobs spread out all over the server, SL can easily recoup those 1B losses with your lazy, camping noobs.
I only skimmed over it when it was first posted, but on a second look god damn that is quiet the verbal smack down.

Bravo Sir.

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