was bored so did fleet totals

[Hempcat]

My vote would have to be with Love without a doubt. With their tactical but brilliant pact with RD even small conflicts between the smaller guilds become hazardous. Progress outside these two guilds is possible but very challengeing. So even though I think Love has proven itself to be the best in AE, Helion lives on for those who enjoy the challenge.

[Glaurung]

My vote would have to be with Love without a doubt. With their tactical but brilliant pact with RD even small conflicts between the smaller guilds become hazardous. Progress outside these two guilds is possible but very challengeing. So even though I think Love has proven itself to be the best in AE, Helion lives on for those who enjoy the challenge.

LOL

You guys at TFL always amaze me.

If LOVE and RD friendship is a brilliant tactical maneuver, what about HeiHo being allied for ages with the rank 2, 3, 4 and 6 guilds? Seems you failed reading the info about these two guilds.

[Hempcat]

My vote would have to be with Love without a doubt. With their tactical but brilliant pact with RD even small conflicts between the smaller guilds become hazardous. Progress outside these two guilds is possible but very challengeing. So even though I think Love has proven itself to be the best in AE, Helion lives on for those who enjoy the challenge.

LOL

You guys at TFL always amaze me.

If LOVE and RD friendship is a brilliant tactical maneuver, what about HeiHo being allied for ages with the rank 2, 3, 4 and 6 guilds? Seems you failed reading the info about these two guilds.

I know very little about Ceti and dont much care too. Seems to me that with that many pacts it removes the hazards that I speak of in Helion. In effect sounds like a political death for Ceti, Not so in Helion. So my opinion remains unchanged, Love is the best in AE and Helion is not dead.

[Glaurung]

In effect sounds like a political death for Ceti, Not so in Helion. So my opinion remains unchanged, Love is the best in AE and Helion is not dead.

How Helion is not dead? You have to be blind not to see how dead it is.What is the challenge of Helion? Evade LOVE and RD and suicide corvettes in WHY? Or sim with noobs in TFL? Dont make me laugh.

[Hempcat]

In effect sounds like a political death for Ceti, Not so in Helion. So my opinion remains unchanged, Love is the best in AE and Helion is not dead.

How Helion is not dead? You have to be blind not to see how dead it is.What is the challenge of Helion? Evade LOVE and RD and suicide corvettes in WHY? Or sim with noobs in TFL? Dont make me laugh.

Pretty sad if you believe your opinion is the only one that counts. TFL continues to expand and build fleet despite the challenges. Yes we do have some simmers but we also have some very good active players and we continue to bring new players into Helion and train them in AE doctrine. TFL does have staying power and wont fold when other guilds do because things seem hopeless. When Love and RD do decide to go at it TFL will have front row seats. Were not going anywhere. So if you wish to stoop to name calling or just wish to crap on others opinions that disagree with yours thats your right. My opinion is unchanged and that mate is my right.

[plex]

In effect sounds like a political death for Ceti, Not so in Helion. So my opinion remains unchanged, Love is the best in AE and Helion is not dead.

How Helion is not dead? You have to be blind not to see how dead it is.What is the challenge of Helion? Evade LOVE and RD and suicide corvettes in WHY? Or sim with noobs in TFL? Dont make me laugh.

Pretty sad if you believe your opinion is the only one that counts. TFL continues to expand and build fleet despite the challenges. Yes we do have some simmers but we also have some very good active players and we continue to bring new players into Helion and train them in AE doctrine. TFL does have staying power and wont fold when other guilds do because things seem hopeless. When Love and RD do decide to go at it TFL will have front row seats. Were not going anywhere. So if you wish to stoop to name calling or just wish to crap on others opinions that disagree with yours thats your right. My opinion is unchanged and that mate is my right.

Hate to be the one to break this to you but LOVE and RD are never going to fight. Their leadership and members are all in the same guilds in other, newer servers. Besides neither guild have the activity to plan and organise a real war even if they wanted to (which they totally don't ).

[Glaurung]

So if you wish to stoop to name calling or just wish to crap on others opinions that disagree with yours thats your right.

Always using an appropriate language and my opinion is strictly based on facts.In TLF and your case, facts are speaking.For example: your level is ~40 last 10 months. This type of players in AE we call "noobs", so dont protest please.Same with your guild.Only active is Untitled and I am sure his ticker reports are attempts removing a perma occ, not hits for profit.

@Plex
Thats the truth, bro.

[Purge]

I'd say the mere fact that both RD and LOVE maintain so few treaties makes H a more complete win.

[Glaurung]

Love that rhetoric, Purge.

Now look at the number of players currently playing H and people online and then come back to talk, alright?

[Purge]

How about a significantly lower number of bases per raw planet total compared to any other server.

By that stat, Ceti is a good 40% more "busy" than H.

[Ron Burgandy]

Why are we even comparing HeiHo and love? Love destroyed their server much faster than HeiHo was able to put a stranglehold on it. Hell, until dojo and OMLO and smurf left recently, HeiHo didn't have any real security at the top. If smurf would have waited to leave when mojo was formed, the server would be in a blob stare down right now.

[Glaurung]

Our goal in HeiHo was to grow stronger and bigger, not destroying the server. Guild is still growing btw, 25+ bil and raising.

Also, back in the day when Ceti started, the game concept (as AE was young) was way different than the stronghold politics of today.