New Stronghold Guide

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New Stronghold Guide

Postby Mentok the Mindtaker » Sat 26 Jun, 2010 10:48

READ FIRST:

Why in Politics & War?
I am well aware there is something like this in Tavern, but I feel this kind of thing is much more politics then general. Not to mention the thread in Tavern is dead, outdated and doesn't have the viewership to be up-to-date. Another major difference is this system below, its simple and effective.

Please keep grandstanding out of this thread. Post what you know as fact. Also when you make changes please make a short explanation as to why in the bottom. Ex. "Guild 1 invaded HXX and Guild 2 disbanded now HXX is owned by Guild 1." The data below is complied from a careful review of the forums and surveys from members of the top guilds. Thanks.

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Requirements for Stronghold Status: Guild must have the grand preponderance of the bases within a galaxy, clear control of the spawned United Colonies, along with sufficient power projection to defend said galaxy, suppress other minor guilds local to said galaxy and the projection power to invade neighboring galaxies.

Shared Galaxies:
guild 1 / guild 2 = guilds which are in the left control more of the galaxy, the guild to the right control less of the galaxy. This is usually most true where two opposing or allied guilds galactic strongholds meet. Another circumstance to a shared galactic stronghold is when a local guild (which meets most, but not all the stronghold requirements) has the presence of another stronger guild within that galaxy that also meets some of the requirements.

Ex. G14 - WL/ =BC=

Disputed Galaxies:
Disputed Galaxies are labeled as such because of the fact there is no clear guild that controls it. A constant state of war, anarchy and hostile actions is the norm.




HELION STRONGHOLDS AS OF 19102010

H00 - [LOVE]
H01 - [LOVE]
H02 - [LOVE]
H03 - [LOVE]
H04 - [LOVE]
H05 - [LOVE]
H06 - [EPIC]
H07 - [EPIC]
H08 - [LOVE]
H09 - [LOVE]
H10 - [H-IV]
H11 - [H-IV]
H12 - [H-IV]
H13 - [H-IV]
H14 - Disputed
H15 - Disputed
H16 - Disputed
H17 - Disputed
H18 - Disputed
H19 - Disputed
H20 - [IC]
H21 - [IC]
H22 - [IC]
H23 - [IC]
H24 - [RD]
H25 - [RD]
H26 - [RD]
H27 - [RD]
H28 - [BoW]
H29 - [BoW]
H30 - [DAWN]
H31 - [DAWN] / [WHY!]
H32 - [WHY!]
H33 - [SPORK]
H34 - Disputed
H35 - [SPORK]
H36 - Disputed
H37 - [SPORK]
H38 - [SPORK]
H39 - Disputed
H40 - [WHY!]
H41 - [WHY!]
H42 - [WHY!]
H43 - [WHY!]
H44 - [WHY!]
H45 - Disputed
H46 - [WOLF]
H47 - [WOLF]
H48 - [GOON] / [UFP]
H49 - [GOON]
H50 - Disputed
H51 - [NECRO]
H52 - [NECRO]
H53 - [NECRO]
H54 - [NECRO]
H55 - Disputed
H56 - [7SINS]
H57 - [7SINS]
H58 - [7SINS]
H59 - [7SINS]
H60 - [7SINS]
H61 - [7SINS]
H62 - [7SINS]
H63 - Disputed
H64 - [SWORG]
H65 - [SWORG] / [AFK] / [7SINS]
H66 - [SWORG] / [AFK]
H67 - [AFK] / [SWORG]
H68 - [AFK]
H69 - [AFK]





"ORIGINAL" HELION STRONGHOLDS

Note: This list is from the "strongholds" of the first guilds from Week Two of server start. Mainly for comparison reasons.

H00 - [stx] / [JUDGE]
H01 - [stx]
H02 - [stx] / [WICKD]
H03 - [stx] / [WICKD] / [JUDGE]
H04 - [HOLY] / [LoST]
H05 - [HOLY]
H06 - [CoRe] / [CMFs]
H07 - [AAAA]
H08 - [malum] / [WHY!]
H09 - [malum] / [BASES]
H10 - [HIV] / [FALL] / [-A l A-]
H11 - [HIV] / [-A l A-]
H12 - [187] / [HIV] / [-A l A-]
H13 - [187]
H14 - [5150] / [=LoL=]
H15 - [5150] / [=LoL=] / [TBC]
H16 - [=N=] / [.:l:.]
H17 - [RAMBO] / [=N=]
H18 - [RAMBO]
H19 - [BrB]
H20 - [MD]
H21 - [MD] / [)X(]
H22 - [MD] / [)X(]
H23 - [BACON] / [MD]
H24 - [RD] / [~DD~] / [KRT]
H25 - [U.F.P] / [~DD~]
H26 - Disputed
H27 - [CoRE]
H28 - [VIVA] / [CoRE]
H29 - [VIVA]

p.s. all credit of this goes to Shattered Citadel who's done a good job maintaining it

Updates are being done every sunday at 23:59:59 server time.(with the same little post as how Shattered Citadel did the last 1)

Do try to give me some numbers to work with on stronghold galaxies ;-)
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Re: New Stronghold Guide

Postby Drakoe » Sat 26 Jun, 2010 11:07

21 and 22 are shared MD/Dread

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Re: New Stronghold Guide

Postby Mentok the Mindtaker » Sat 26 Jun, 2010 11:17

Drakoe wrote:21 and 22 are shared MD/Dread


editted :-)

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Re: New Stronghold Guide

Postby RedFury » Sat 26 Jun, 2010 17:27

MrMentok SWORG never owner H66


And the uppers H60's belong to Astro Zombie's guild

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Re: New Stronghold Guide

Postby Mentok the Mindtaker » Sat 26 Jun, 2010 18:34

ok some numbers would be nice. i was a bit sketchy on the SWORG thing cause i needed to get info from the previous thread. i'll remove SWORG From the list and add Astro Zombies guild to the empty spots on the charts.

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Re: New Stronghold Guide

Postby Mentok the Mindtaker » Sat 26 Jun, 2010 18:37

Also it would be awesome if someone had some info for me about the teens. seeing 5150 merged into DREAD do all their strongholds now belong to DREAD? or has something shifted the balance there a bit?

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Re: New Stronghold Guide

Postby Caeruleus » Sat 26 Jun, 2010 19:12

H56 and H57 belong to 7Sins through their absorption of PACK. And I would at least give EPIC some credit and put H06 and H07 as EPIC / RUIN.

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Re: New Stronghold Guide

Postby Jonboy » Sat 26 Jun, 2010 19:22

Caeruleus wrote:H56 and H57 belong to 7Sins through their absorption of PACK. And I would at least give EPIC some credit and put H06 and H07 as EPIC / RUIN.



i wouldn't

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Re: New Stronghold Guide

Postby Mentok the Mindtaker » Sat 26 Jun, 2010 20:14

Caeruleus wrote:H56 and H57 belong to 7Sins through their absorption of PACK. And I would at least give EPIC some credit and put H06 and H07 as EPIC / RUIN.


Caeruleus can you provide me with statistics for those 2 galaxies in the lowers? if they control enough bases i could put them as 2nd guild

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Re: New Stronghold Guide

Postby Jonboy » Sat 26 Jun, 2010 20:15

they have the bases, but they have no real influence/power

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Re: New Stronghold Guide

Postby Mentok the Mindtaker » Sat 26 Jun, 2010 20:17

Jonboy wrote:they have the bases, but they have no real influence/power


if that's the case they don't meet the requirements for a stronghold spot as listed above

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Re: New Stronghold Guide

Postby Arjani » Sat 26 Jun, 2010 20:39

RUIN's database records of H06 and 07 show that in both galaxies, EPIC has more bases than RUIN, but RUIN has more fleet than EPIC. For all practical purposes EPIC is not in control of 06/07; RUIN is the only guild that freely flies around.

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Re: New Stronghold Guide

Postby Mentok the Mindtaker » Sat 26 Jun, 2010 21:55

Arjani wrote:RUIN's database records of H06 and 07 show that in both galaxies, EPIC has more bases than RUIN, but RUIN has more fleet than EPIC. For all practical purposes EPIC is not in control of 06/07; RUIN is the only guild that freely flies around.


i'll leave it RUIN then if EPIC can prove to me they have as much control as RUIN might have i'll add them to the list

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Re: New Stronghold Guide

Postby SirNardManhawk » Sat 26 Jun, 2010 23:27

17 Is a mixed stronghold between SPQR/GUILD ;)

Currently fighting for domination :biglaugh:


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In reality, 5150 is defunct (DREAD?). DREAD has some bases and is probably strongest, but lack base numbers, LYCAN, and SPQR are numerous. I'd probably call it disputed.

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Re: New Stronghold Guide

Postby Sage » Sun 27 Jun, 2010 00:55

Mentok the Mindtaker wrote:ok some numbers would be nice. i was a bit sketchy on the SWORG thing cause i needed to get info from the previous thread. i'll remove SWORG From the list and add Astro Zombies guild to the empty spots on the charts.


Ermm... someone really has to come to 66 to see the amount of bases of SWORG guilds (SotL, BORG, DISP, LoST). Most of the FABIO fleets have been derbed, and most of their bases are farmed by Disciples. SotL and it's allies controls H66, and I welcome Mentock any day of the week to visit my guild and he can see for himself.

H66 majority of bases belong to a SWORG tag. If any it be a shared galaxy.

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