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Your opinion of the Fleet Maintenance Tax?

- LIKE IT
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- MAYBE
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- HELL NO
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Your basic opinion of the Fleet Maintenance Tax?

Postby The_Desert_Fox » Fri 23 May, 2014 23:37

STRONGLY AGREE with the new Fleet Maintenance tax. AND YOU UNDERSTAND THE FORMULAs.

,,, if you do not understand the formula, and have not ran the math,
you should select
MAYBE I LIKE THE CONCEPT, but THINK the formula should be adjusted.

,,, if you think the concept is retarded, and think this is going to nerf the game
you should select
HELL NO, I STRONGLY DISAGREE with Fleet Maintenance tax.

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Re: Your basic opinion of the Fleet Maintenance Tax?

Postby -Misukin Alah- » Sat 24 May, 2014 00:10

That´s the most pour idea i´v have seen!!!
Well.. that´s a game made by a Portuguese... and in Portugal they only think in TAXESSSSSSSSS!!!

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Re: Your basic opinion of the Fleet Maintenance Tax?

Postby Wlerin » Sat 24 May, 2014 00:19

The_Desert_Fox wrote:STRONGLY AGREE with the new Fleet Maintenance tax. AND YOU UNDERSTAND THE FORMULAs.

,,, if you do not understand the formula, and have not ran the math,
you should select
MAYBE I LIKE THE CONCEPT, but THINK the formula should be adjusted.

,,, if you think the concept is retarded, and think this is going to nerf the game
you should select
HELL NO, I STRONGLY DISAGREE with Fleet Maintenance tax.

What if I think the general concept is a good one but this specific instance of it is terrible?

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Re: Your basic opinion of the Fleet Maintenance Tax?

Postby blahblah » Sat 24 May, 2014 01:19

I like the idea of a fleet maintenance
but this formula is just horrible
(ie a bad idea gets worse the more you look at it
and when I first saw it I thought crap that can't be right.
now I am looking at it and admittedly you have to be in a very strong guild but
now I see how you will have a small number of players with several times the fleet of the rest)
and there is 2 separate paths to do that
zerg econ (probably won't work unless the server is very dead)
using just derbs to build fleet (needs a very active server and econ become unimportant )

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Re: Your basic opinion of the Fleet Maintenance Tax?

Postby Igor » Sat 24 May, 2014 02:18

-Misukin Alah- wrote:That´s the most pour idea i´v have seen!!!
Well.. that´s a game made by a Portuguese... and in Portugal they only think in TAXESSSSSSSSS!!!

You're confuding Portugal with Brazil :paranoid:

I'm sorry, English isn't my first language.
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Re: Your basic opinion of the Fleet Maintenance Tax?

Postby -Misukin Alah- » Sat 24 May, 2014 03:39

Igor wrote:
-Misukin Alah- wrote:That´s the most pour idea i´v have seen!!!
Well.. that´s a game made by a Portuguese... and in Portugal they only think in TAXESSSSSSSSS!!!

You're confuding Portugal with Brazil :paranoid:

estou a falar de portugal mesmo e como Portugues que sou!

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Re: Your basic opinion of the Fleet Maintenance Tax?

Postby Igor » Sat 24 May, 2014 04:01

-Misukin Alah- wrote:
Igor wrote:
-Misukin Alah- wrote:That´s the most pour idea i´v have seen!!!
Well.. that´s a game made by a Portuguese... and in Portugal they only think in TAXESSSSSSSSS!!!

You're confuding Portugal with Brazil :paranoid:

estou a falar de portugal mesmo e como Portugues que sou!

Falo português claramente, se quiser, envie-me uma mensagem em privado no Forum, but... Since we're obligated to speak English, let's move on!

You're a poor and happy guy and you don't know how, dude, we (brazilians) work 159 days to pay our government. For example, the car produced here, for us (brazilian citizens), we pay more than ~400% over its actual value, while the same car produced here, cost only 140% (including carryin and everything like transferring...) over its actual value in our neighbor, Argentina, i.e., almost nothing of taxes and only the percentage of profit which the company that is selling the car imposes to their clients.

For you to have an idea, the U.S.A, a developed country, although with an older nation than we are (less work-force), work _only_ 89 days to pay their government.

Yeah, you're happy and you don't know. But eh! The Canada for example, is dying in jeaously because they won't host the world cup, well, they did just won 20 nobel awards and is the fifth country with the highest HDI in the world, while we're around ~80, yea, they are dying in jeaously, and you're a slave of Portugal. ;) /irony.

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Re: Your basic opinion of the Fleet Maintenance Tax?

Postby KingMob » Sat 24 May, 2014 11:52

It's currently nearing the 170 days of work to pay taxes in Portugal.

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Re: Your basic opinion of the Fleet Maintenance Tax?

Postby sternenpunk » Sat 24 May, 2014 12:51

I like it. Simple concept, numbers are sensible too.

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Re: Your basic opinion of the Fleet Maintenance Tax?

Postby Igor » Sat 24 May, 2014 22:20

KingMob wrote:It's currently nearing the 170 days of work to pay taxes in Portugal.

At least your government invest in your own country ;)

We have corrupt governments, all them (only some try to explore the huge potential which Brazil has, in favor to the own brazilian citizens).

sternenpunk wrote:I like it. Simple concept, numbers are sensible too.

Isn't a concept, it's a fact.

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Re: Your basic opinion of the Fleet Maintenance Tax?

Postby Tasman » Sun 25 May, 2014 07:57

I'm going with "maybe", because the idea is ok, but the implementation is abysmal and is likely to wreck the game more than doing nothing.

And I Haven't got the faintest idea about what I'm talking about.
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Re: Your basic opinion of the Fleet Maintenance Tax?

Postby fendelius » Sun 25 May, 2014 17:29

wat are these day taxes u tawkin about? u say in ur country they tax u for the number of days u live in the country??? :think:

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Re: Your basic opinion of the Fleet Maintenance Tax?

Postby Igor » Sun 25 May, 2014 18:11

fendelius wrote:wat are these day taxes u tawkin about? u say in ur country they tax u for the number of days u live in the country??? :think:

No, it's based on your total GDI 'per capita'. If you worked 260 days in a year and made approximately $ 22,000, 159 days (in my case) goes to the government, i.e., ~$ 13,453 was taxes and, the rest, is what you got for you, and it's proportional, like I said, on your GDI produced by year.

The numbers mentioned above are merely fictional for your comprehension of what we were talking about.

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Re: Your basic opinion of the Fleet Maintenance Tax?

Postby wke235 » Mon 26 May, 2014 08:52

I think this is a good idea and wish there was only two small changes. (1) Allow income to go negative and start deleting ships from lack of maintenance starting with the largest ships if the empire runs out of saved credits. If income can only drop to zero, players can still have bigger fleets .. they just have to be more aggressive in attacking other players to gain debris and profit allowing for more ship builds. Drop to zero will actually force the creation of hyper aggressive players going around preying on the weak, seeking to get the credits they need to keep growing. Not the game play change I think they want. And (2) Implement the changes on all servers not just new. Right now what is missing on older servers is any competitive balance as older players raking in 60+ Million a year (at least) in income keep pouring it into ships, leading to fleets of unbelievable size.


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